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Drives: 2000 Kia Sephia LS, 1999 Kia Sephia, 1998 Kia Sportage 4x4
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OK i'm a little lost here. I haven't to this site in a while do to an illnes but now after loggin in I think I missed out on some things. What is an ICV and what is the recall and what years soes it affect. Mine is an 03 and it has been running great for all this years. It did have the crank shaft bolt recall done. And some clip fell off the throttle but luckily it had not fallen in the engine or it would have done some damage. Any information would be helpful.
the clip is in no danger of falling inside the engine. it's on the outside of the lower part of the intake manifold and is completely replaced during the ICV recall. basically the ICV recall involves replacing the lower half of the intake manifold, 3 gaskets, a snap ring, and 2 screws. that is all that comes in the kit that we get from the parts department. the only thing that is in any danger of falling into the engine is the valves in the lower intake manifold and that's the reason for the recall in the first place. officially kia pays 1 1/2 hours for the labor of this recall so if it takes them 2 hours...that dealer is eating a half hour in labor.
You're obviously a little biased. I drove Toyota's since the 1980's and never had a problem with any of those vehicles. I took a chance on the Sorento and I'm paying the price for it now. The Sorento is a good looking SUV and it handles extremely well, but it is not reliable. The warranty is a fine thing to have but you may end up paying for it, like I did, when you have to spend $600.00 for auto rentals, or a days work to have an engine bolt replaced or get towed for a cracked radiator reservoir...
kiaracer:
That may be all you get in the kit but that lower half contains the more important parts. IE: "butterfly valve plates with screws that theoretically won't come loose” That quote is from a KIA factory rep that was visiting a dealer when I went to pick up our 2003. A couple of screws came out and they did a one sided valve job. They had the truck for 2 weeks. 3/4 week for diagnosis and teardown, one week for outside valve job and 1/4 week for assembly. Times approx.
garykelemen:
As for the towing because of the resevoir bottle: Mine also had a hole in it. I was still able to tell it was leaking and kept it topped up with coolant before I got it to the dealer. I check every vehicle I own once a week. Unless the bottle blew up and you were going 70 MPH down the freeway at night and your dash lights were blown you should have caught it before it over heated.
4 weeks would be unacceptable to me. If it's the dealers fault that there is a delay they need to provide a rental or a partial pay for one. Keep after them and good luck.
OK but what years soes this recall affect. Mine is an 03 EX and when I was in for some service I asked the service manager about the recall and he checked out someting on the computer and said it doesn't my Sorento
You're obviously a little biased. I drove Toyota's since the 1980's and never had a problem with any of those vehicles. I took a chance on the Sorento and I'm paying the price for it now. The Sorento is a good looking SUV and it handles extremely well, but it is not reliable. The warranty is a fine thing to have but you may end up paying for it, like I did, when you have to spend $600.00 for auto rentals, or a days work to have an engine bolt replaced or get towed for a cracked radiator reservoir...
That is the pot calling the kettle black. I have driven weather mine or familiy owned Toyotas/Nissans/Mazdas and many others since 1978 and now my 2004 KIA. And I have found my KIA to be no better and no worse then any of the ASIAN cars in that group. We have with our KIA's an intake problem right now yes. But back in the late 80's early 90's Toyota had head gasket problems with the 3.0V6 (internal) and the 3.4V6 (external). Both engs in pickups and fourunners. Mine was a 1988 3.0V6 extracab and i changed the antifrezze well. And i never had the issues. But the fact still remains Toyota had the 3.0 and then redesigned the 3.0 into the 3.4 and still had head gasket issues. Thou totally reversed ones. That is almost a ten year run of engs for one or the other version of the SAME issue. Kia has only this issue for 3.5V6 form blah blah Prod date 2002-blah blah Prod date 2004 Sorento's. Three year run. Not in Amanti's not in XG350's not in Sedona's. The intake is one off for the Sorento. And only HALF(the early ones at that) at most the run of 3.5's put in ALL Sorentos built with 3.5's. So what is your point? You might really want to go BACK to Toyota. And leave the KIA dealers free to fix our vechs when this or that needs to be and we do not see it as a problem. And not yours when you are never happy. And gee i will now these days take my 5/60,10/100 before I go for a Toyota and its 3/36. A KIA I bought with a bumper to bumper 10/100 exclusionary warrenty ZERO deduct. And all for even with the extra warrenty for far less then the 3/36 Toyota Fourunner would have ever cost me.
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All I am saying is that I am 49 years old and I have been driving for a very long time and this is the first time that I have had so many problems with any vehicle. It is costing more than any vehicle that I have ever owned. I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings.
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we get a kit that includes an entire lower half of the intake manifold. that gets replaced, we don't replace the vavle itself, we replace the whole lower intake manifold as well as the 3 gaskets we have to take off and replace and the snap ring the holds the rod that comes from the vacuum actuator that operates the ICV.
as for hurting my feelings...i could care less about if you go to honda, toyota, or whoever. it's your vehicle and your money and your choice. i was simply saying that you're not gonna get away from recalls. you could go out and buy a mercedes tomorrow and go out the next day only to find out that it doesn't start because the battery drained overnight due to a recalled module staying "awake" (real recall by the way). does that mean that you're gonna go out and post on a mercedes forum the next day and say your gonna go buy a beemer because mercedes can't make a car without it having problems? if you've been driving for so long you should know that every car manufacture is gonna have multiple recalls on vehicles and every manufacturer is gonna have a few lemons in the millions of cars they make and believe me i may only be 25 but i've seen even hondas and toyotas break because of stupid stuff too.
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kiaracer:
That may be all you get in the kit but that lower half contains the more important parts. IE: "butterfly valve plates with screws that theoretically won't come loose” That quote is from a KIA factory rep that was visiting a dealer when I went to pick up our 2003. A couple of screws came out and they did a one sided valve job. They had the truck for 2 weeks. 3/4 week for diagnosis and teardown, one week for outside valve job and 1/4 week for assembly. Times approx.
garykelemen:
As for the towing because of the resevoir bottle: Mine also had a hole in it. I was still able to tell it was leaking and kept it topped up with coolant before I got it to the dealer. I check every vehicle I own once a week. Unless the bottle blew up and you were going 70 MPH down the freeway at night and your dash lights were blown you should have caught it before it over heated.
4 weeks would be unacceptable to me. If it's the dealers fault that there is a delay they need to provide a rental or a partial pay for one. Keep after them and good luck.
All I am saying is that I am 49 years old and I have been driving for a very long time and this is the first time that I have had so many problems with any vehicle. It is costing more than any vehicle that I have ever owned. I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings.
My feelings are not hurt in the least and I am 47 and am not bias. I am saying that a 49 yr old should not make statments like you did with out proper back up of facts being the pot. While calling kettle black. I gave cold hard verifiable fact about the 3.0/3.4V6's and could have gone on to make more for Toyota and the others. The 3.0V6 in the Camry and is not the same 3.0 as in the trucks either before you go there, comes to mind too with its sludge issues if you do not change the oil really anally. You on the other hand, you gave seat of the pants non factual info statements. While the pot called the kettle black. If anyone here was bias in this thread it was you. Like I said go back to Toyota and sell your KIA.
I can't sell my Kia. After getting it back from service, I have to get it towed back to the dealership due to the same issue. So, to recap; my Sorento goes into the shop for 24 days and is returned with the same problem...loss of power with loud clicking noise. Is this factual enough for you?
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