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Uvo Voice recognition with iPods - any luck?

Just got a new, Niro Touring with Tech Package.
Very nice, but I'm having trouble getting the Uvo system to perform voice tasks, mainly using an iPod Touch, 3rd gen as source.
I can say "Play iPod", and the uvo will select it (although you nearly have to shout), however, all other iPod commands result in the dreaded "I can't understand you".
I can select and change AM, FM, Sirius channels, but with the iPod, things like "Play The Beatles" gets me nothing.
Anyone else? If you are having success, which model iPod are you using?
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from what I read in the manual it will only play Ipod not a performer hope that helps.
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from what I read in the manual it will only play Ipod not a performer hope that helps.
thanks. I was going of this pdf manual excerpt, as the Niro manual is vague

http://www.kia.com/us/content/media/...ceCommands.pdf

from this, it appears you can just ask for an artist, but the directions are ambiguous at best.
There are lots of demos of people on Youtube showing how simple it should work.
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gave it a shot last night. Will go to the Ipod or the radio but will not go to a band or song My Optima used to but I can deal.
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gave it a shot last night. Will go to the Ipod or the radio but will not go to a band or song My Optima used to but I can deal.
what? which iPod are you using? And the same iPod, in an Optima (year?) was able to take voice commands for song, album, etc.?
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what? which iPod are you using? And the same iPod, in an Optima (year?) was able to take voice commands for song, album, etc.?
classic 64 g I had an 11 Optima Hybrid I never tried doing a song but artist played when asked
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ok, thanks. I'll try and find a v.5 or v.6 to test.
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classic 64 g I had an 11 Optima Hybrid I never tried doing a song but artist played when asked
hey. I tried doing the same thing with a simple, usb flash drive. Same result: Kia can't find songs, artists or albums via voice recognition if it's plugged into the usb port. This must be a serious software fail, which I would expect them to correct, but which they will probably try and sweep under the rug.
Crap, my seven-year-old Pioneer aftermarket can do that stuff.

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Beware the new, 2017 Voice Recognition uvo unit

Just purchased a lovely 2017 Niro hybrid, and upscaled to a Touring edition for mainly one reason: 8" Voice Recognition UVO Nav / Entertainment unit.

Based on available material (online manuals, videos and dealerships reps), we carefully examined whether it was a worthwhile expense. Because of voice commands, and how they increased safety when choosing media, etc., we decided to pay the extra for the Touring model to get this UVO Voice unit.

Then we got the car home, and guess what? KIA has revamped the voice-controls, removing nearly every, useful command with regards to media devices such as USB, Aux and iPod architectures.

Before purchase, one KIA rep suggested the many Youtube videos to help with education.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...8a6MGPQxusLsDy

One of those videos, titled "07 UVO Control Overview", clearly indicates things like album, artist and song selection are voice-selectable, and for different sources as mentioned. There are nearly a dozen videos on Youtube, spread over a seven-year period, many by KIA companies also backing up the use of these features. Go to the 4:30 mark of this video and watch:

https://youtu.be/1AHjSW7GLSc

WELL GUESS WHAT? KIA has eliminated ALL of those commands. It is not possible to now say "Play artist The Beatles", or "play song" or "play album". Essentially, all you can do is say "play ipod". You can't even say "play next track".

The ONLY way it's sometimes possible is when using Android Auto or Apple Car Play, using ONLY CLOUD apps.

It appears KIA has crippled the UVO for the 2017 models, likely so they can pay Microsoft less money, instead relying on third party apps via your cell phone. And you know what that means: KIA will take little responsibility going forward on operational defects, instead blaming phone manufacturers, Google or Apple.

What if I don't want to use my precious cell bandwidth for music, or I don't want Google to know everything I listen to and market to me, or I'm in a lousy, 2g cell service area and cant get decent cell reception. What if I'd just like to use my trusty iPod Classic with 160gb of tunes, as KIA Corporate pretty clearly said I'd be able to do by sending me to read and watch these sources?

So if you're thinking of buying a new KIA, and are wondering if spending the extra dough on the Voice Recognition UVO system is worth it, I'd say it isn't. Why KIA thinks it is a good idea to be pressing lcd touch screen buttons at 70mph as opposed to simple voice commands is a mystery, not to mention a safety hazard. More importantly, the UVO system has included these basic, common, expected commands for eight years now - why make the UVO less useful?

Bad move KIA. The real crime is that none of the truthful, accurate info was available, pre-sale, for the consumer to study, even after they were specifically asked, and they either stupidly or fraudulently led consumers to believe the commands still functioned.

If all you use is pre-defined, cloud apps determined by Google and Apple, and you have unlimited bandwidth, and live where at least 3G service is constant, you're golden. Otherwise, KIA's overly expensive UVO system is a rip-off.

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Just purchased a lovely 2017 Niro hybrid, and upscaled to a Touring edition for mainly one reason: 8" Voice Recognition UVO Nav / Entertainment unit.

Based on available material (online manuals, videos and dealerships reps), we carefully examined whether it was a worthwhile expense. Because of voice commands, and how they increased safety when choosing media, etc., we decided to pay the extra for the Touring model to get this UVO Voice unit.

Then we got the car home, and guess what? KIA has revamped the voice-controls, removing nearly every, useful command with regards to media devices such as USB, Aux and iPod architectures.

Before purchase, one KIA rep suggested the many Youtube videos to help with education.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...8a6MGPQxusLsDy

One of those videos, titled "07 UVO Control Overview", clearly indicates things like album, artist and song selection are voice-selectable, and for different sources as mentioned. There are nearly a dozen videos on Youtube, spread over a seven-year period, many by KIA companies also backing up the use of these features. Go to the 4:30 mark of this video and watch:

https://youtu.be/1AHjSW7GLSc

WELL GUESS WHAT? KIA has eliminated ALL of those commands. It is not possible to now say "Play artist The Beatles", or "play song" or "play album". Essentially, all you can do is say "play ipod". You can't even say "play next track".

The ONLY way it's sometimes possible is when using Android Auto or Apple Car Play, using ONLY CLOUD apps.

It appears KIA has crippled the UVO for the 2017 models, likely so they can pay Microsoft less money, instead relying on third party apps via your cell phone. And you know what that means: KIA will take little responsibility going forward on operational defects, instead blaming phone manufacturers, Google or Apple.

What if I don't want to use my precious cell bandwidth for music, or I don't want Google to know everything I listen to and market to me, or I'm in a lousy, 2g cell service area and cant get decent cell reception. What if I'd just like to use my trusty iPod Classic with 160gb of tunes, as KIA Corporate pretty clearly said I'd be able to do by sending me to read and watch these sources?

So if you're thinking of buying a new KIA, and are wondering if spending the extra dough on the Voice Recognition UVO system is worth it, I'd say it isn't. Why KIA thinks it is a good idea to be pressing lcd touch screen buttons at 70mph as opposed to simple voice commands is a mystery, not to mention a safety hazard. More importantly, the UVO system has included these basic, common, expected commands for eight years now - why make the UVO less useful?

Bad move KIA. The real crime is that none of the truthful, accurate info was available, pre-sale, for the consumer to study, even after they were specifically asked, and they either stupidly or fraudulently led consumers to believe the commands still functioned.

If all you use is pre-defined, cloud apps determined by Google and Apple, and you have unlimited bandwidth, and live where at least 3G service is constant, you're golden. Otherwise, KIA's overly expensive UVO system is a rip-off.

Actually the navigation system in the Niro has never had those commands. This system has been in use since the 2014 Soul and runs Android, not Microsoft. For 2017 the basic UVO systems (non-navigation) were also revised and run Android as well. Only the Microsoft UVO systems were the ones that had the commands you reference. There is no mention of them in any of the 2017 manuals as far as I know.

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