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I want to thank the economy and the media for killing the body on frame (truck based) SUV. The price of fuel has increased along with everything else. In Ontario we pay 13% HST tax on every sale and service. Jobs are hard to come by and, for some of us, the ones we have don't have the same pay increase as inflation.

I can understand that it is rediculous to drive an H2 Hummer around, but a good mid sized SUV is not the problem.

I like my KIA. I find that my Borrego has a bumpy ride on bumps. I could only imagine what it feels like to drive on the same bumps at the same speed with a compact car. I can drive off road, pull my camping trailer, and go hunting with my Borrego. I'm not so sure that these car based CUV's could do the same. Does a pickup truck get better gas mileage? No. How about minivans? Not really much better. What about super cars, luxury cars, etc? No.

So why did they stop making the Borrego or why didn't they sell enough? Bad timing? High price? (mind you it's a bargain compared to other SUV's with same options.) Marketing? (The new Sorrento was launched out of Geogia in 2011 - better to sell more of those.) No diesel offered in North America? (what else is new here.) Missing other options that the Mohave has, like power lift gate, height adjustable air suspension, moving foot pedals, more AC vents and controls in the back seats, and whatever else? Answer: All of the above.

If I could trade my EX V8 Borrego for a Diesel Mohave, I would. But for any other SUV, never!

I found ours to be bumpy and rough at first. But I think the ride kind of softened out now. but that's just me. I'm from Pittsburgh so we are used to bumpy roads any ways!
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I want to thank the economy and the media for killing the body on frame (truck based) SUV. The price of fuel has increased along with everything else. In Ontario we pay 13% HST tax on every sale and service. Jobs are hard to come by and, for some of us, the ones we have don't have the same pay increase as inflation.
You need to remember, at whose expense you buy your car? Today, for the expense of the bank, and only then, for our own money. And now on the balance sheets of banks total problem of government securities. And yet here you are, "patriots", instead of loading a U.S. production, you, say the word "want" and asking the bank to transfer money abroad.
I think it's good that you have at least this choice, that you have today. Next may be even poorer.

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In Russia sales of KIA HP (Mojave / borrego)
KIA Mohave.
The characteristics of the diesel engine made ​​with specificity the Russian market and taxes. The result was a very interesting machine. Especially because its price is 2 times lower Audi Q7 and Mercedes Benz GL350. The people began to take, but then we were caught up in trouble. The car is very bad is going on very bad asphalt. And in our climate and soil, bad asphalt - is the norm. Suspension machine made ​​expressly for the warm America. But the package is installed chic for winter. The mass of stupid technology solutions.
It became interesting.
We look to the U.S., there is no longer on this machine. We look to Canada, and here she died.
What's the problem? Koreans you explain something? What can we expect?
Borrego was sold in Russia with an automatic transmission 8 assists. This lineup of 2012.
In Russia, KIA sells 120,000 cars a year, including Borrego, only 550 pieces.
Why Borrego died in Canada and the U.S.? But please, not rumors! Only official information.
During the earlier thanks.
I think the Sorento has captured much of the target (for KIA) midsize SUV market, even though it is limited in towing, etc. I would presume that KIA saw no reason to have two fairly similar vehicles, thus the Borrego was discontinued. I like that I rarely see other Borrego's on the road, but I wonder about the future of this trucks reliability, value, and maintenance costs.
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I think the Sorento has captured much of the target (for KIA) midsize SUV market, even though it is limited in towing, etc. I would presume that KIA saw no reason to have two fairly similar vehicles, thus the Borrego was discontinued. I like that I rarely see other Borrego's on the road, but I wonder about the future of this trucks reliability, value, and maintenance costs.
In this could be the logic, if Borrego disappeared completely out of production. But it has not disappeared, and even refresh it and production was moved to the European part of Russia (near metallurgy and the market). Please, take any Borrego, at least as Korea, even from Russia. It is alive and better than ever was. I think Kia swung relic for America, on frame trucks. This market belongs to those who regularly gives his earnings to purchase U.S. government bonds or creates jobs in the United States. Bankers could just tell the Koreans that they (the bankers) do not buy Borrego for they (the Koreans), and that's all. It is my opinion. The Koreans did not argue, and quietly removed from America Borrego .
Example. You have come to the bank and say, 'I want to Borrego ". The bank said: "We can not give you credit," and refers to some reason. You have come to the bank and say, 'I want to GM ". The bank said: "Yes, I congratulate you! You're a good man!" and calls some reason.
Of course it was not, since Korean cultural people, understood the request and did not make trouble. Quietly went away.
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I have the EX V8 and I plan on keeping it as long as I can.
After the warranty expires, I'm looking at getting longer springs on it which would lift it a bit and give more suspension travel. Also, the front wheel wells need to be hammered back a bit to fit a more "Standard" size LT Tire on those 18 inch rims. I looked at 17 inch rims, but they rub on the front caliper due to the increased size of the brakes for the V8. Same bolt pattern as the Dodge Viper though....interesting...
I use it to tow and off-road and get to work, drive in bad winter storms, etc... if I'm concerned about gas mileage, I got a 7 seater Rondo for that.
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