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I beleive you have to install it as close to the air intake as possible closer to the engine. right now I have mine in stalled closer to the air filter... I think after seeing this website I will be moving it closer to the engine.[/QUOTE]

Hey Mark The web site says you install them just after the map so you have it in right if it is at the filter.
Thanks again I cant wait to add it.
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Being I am new to this forum I thought you all might be like.... yah show me the proof of that filter that you got for your Borrego that suppose to fit a Grand Cherokee....

Well here is a picture so you can see how it fits in the factory air box hopefully you all can have confidence to buy one for your Borrego and protect the engine from the dust out there.

Here are pictures for your review.

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I put this on a V6 the paper filter measured 11.5 x 8.5 so I did some searching for K&N filters that met that requirement.

This filter was designed for a Jeep Grand Cherokee but seeing that K&N didn't cross reference this same dimension for the Borego I wanted to help everyone else so they don't have to do the research I did to get one.
Enjoy....

The part number is 33-2420 for the K&N
Here is the link.
http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=33-2420

I just tried this link and It doesn't seem to work anymore so let's try shopping with this link.
33-2420 - Google Product Search
The K&N filter will do absolutaly nothing to help your car/truck at all over the stock filter. If anything, the oil from the filter will most likely contaminate something in the engine area - not good at all. Stick with the recommended stock filter, it was designed to work with the vehicle.
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The K&N filter will do absolutaly nothing to help your car/truck at all over the stock filter. If anything, the oil from the filter will most likely contaminate something in the engine area - not good at all. Stick with the recommended stock filter, it was designed to work with the vehicle.
Is that your final answer? You have built some machine buddy to prove your theory?
Have you read the instructions on a k&n filter? Lightly oil filter, not spray it till it is running all over the place then allow to dry.
1,000,000 sold and counting? So it is a big sham?
I cant believe k&n is still in business, Wow thanks buddy you have saved all of us from a good fleecing.
So what are your credentials again?
Other than walmart greeter!!!
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I have used K&N filters since I was 18, now 44. These are the vehicles that I have had personally and used the filters on, 1968 Dodge Charger 440, 1968 Dodge Charger 383, 1973 Dodge Challenger 340, 1976 Plymouth Grand Fury, Hyundai Pony (don't ask), 1986 VW Golf diesel, 1999, Dodge Grand Caraven, 2003 Dodge Grand caravan, 1998 VW New Beetle turbo diesel, 2003 Dodge ram 3500 5.9 litre turbo diesel and coming soon 2010 Borrego V6. Of all these vehicles I have had zero poroblems with the K&N filer, I have never experienced the ''dusting'' problem that some report. Most probably caused by not having the filter properly sealed in the airbox. While it may not give you a seat of the pants feel increase in power or a real noticeable difference in fuel economy, it will last the life of your vehicle and will cost you less money in the long run by not having to buy a new filter every 6 months. Even a dirty K&N flows more air than a clean new filter. While I do not profess to be an expert on filters, the last 26 years of use leads me to believe that it is worth my hard earned cash to put one in all my vehicles.

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I beleive you have to install it as close to the air intake as possible closer to the engine. right now I have mine in stalled closer to the air filter... I think after seeing this website I will be moving it closer to the engine.
Hey Mark The web site says you install them just after the map so you have it in right if it is at the filter.
Thanks again I cant wait to add it.
Evan[/QUOTE]

Thank you by the way.... Let me know when you get it if your filter sort of snugs into place... I was happy to hear the sound as I installed it into the air box it was like it was made to snug down into the box as I pressed down the edges of the filter. Then I put the top of the airbox (intake tube) onto the airbox and seemed to fit the same as when I had the paper filter.

I am just saying that the filter seemed to act like it was built for the Borrego even though it just doesn't have the name placed on it.

By the way..... my Kia dealership said the same thing that the guy in this post said about don't use the K&N filter as the oil gets on the Mass Air Sensor and shorts it out.... I kind of wonder about that.... My Hyundai Santa Fe had to have a Mass Air Flow sensor replaced and I had a K&N Air Filter on it. But never had a problem with the Santa Fe after they replaced the sensor. I asked the Hyundai Dealer about the K&N filter and they said when they replaced the mass air sensor that the sensor was probably faulty to begin with and maybe (can't prove it) that the increase air flow made the faulty piece quit sooner.....

Anyone done any research on Mass Air Flow Sensor..? Personally I wish I could just snip the wire and not have to worry about sensing air flow... I know it is all technical stuff dealing with combustion and efficiency so let's not go there...

K&N says that if a dealer says that equipment fails due to their filter that they will warranty the repair and reimburse and talk to the dealership personally.
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Mark volkswagon canada tried the same thing back in 02 with k&n and voiding the warranty, K&N legal department had a field day with them.
Under the forgive my spelling magness moss act It is illegle for any manufacture to void warranty for using a aftermarket part of any kind If it has met or beats manufacture specs. Unless they want to provide said part free of charge!!!
If used properly and not over oiled, there have not been problems with map sensors caused by using a k&n filter.
As a mech I have replaced hundreds of map sensors with paper filters. So does paper filters cause the map to go?
My dad had a 01 vw jetta 1.9 tdi with a k&n filter fromm 5000km to 345000 on it when he sold it and I replaced the map at 300000km so I dont think the K&N caused the map to go.
Mark no cutting the wires to the map, map is good and our friend
As for the tight box fit If I do find it not a really good seal I will put some 2 sided foam tape around the cover lip, it will seal up perfect then.

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Glad I read this post. I was under the impression you were changing out the intake and using a K&N intake pipe with the filter attached. Apparently, you have brilliantly found JUST the filter to interchange with the KIA filter.

Yes? No?
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Glad I read this post. I was under the impression you were changing out the intake and using a K&N intake pipe with the filter attached. Apparently, you have brilliantly found JUST the filter to interchange with the KIA filter.

Yes? No?
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YES you are correct Just the filter in the stock air box
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Installed the K&N filter this afternoon, it is a tight fit but seems to seal ok. Will check the plastic intake trunking after a few thousand kms and see if there is any sign of dusting.

2010 Borrego EX V6 AWD, Burnt Orange, Yokahama winter tires, Royal Purple 5W20 Synthetic, K&N Air Filter.
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Thank you for the post.. Happy to hear and confirm what I have been posting.
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