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#1 (permalink) Old 12-05-2010, 09:09 PM
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Hi Guys, Last night while driving under normal road conditions the ESC/off icon lit up on the cluster. I then pushed the ESC off/on switch on the dash numerous times but the light stayed on -- it wouldn't go off. I shut the car off, did some shopping, and when I restarted the car the icon was no longer lit -- and after today's use it has remained that way. OK... was this a fluke or do you think I'm headed for an electronic failure?
BTW -- I'm in the Philly suburbs and I ALWAYS drive with ECS 'on.' Any thoughts? Thanks. Oh, happy holidays to all. Ray
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Happy Holidays to you as well, Ray.

It's hard to say right now since it only happened once. Let's hope it was a fluke.
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Default wbw. Yep!

That's the way I was going to play it. I felt I needed to post this thread to give people a heads-up -- maybe ahead of an impending service campaign. Nevertheless, I'll stay posted if this becomes a persistent problem. Thanks. Ray
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Almost everything in new cars is controlled by some microprocessor (module) and they all run written "code" (software). "Bugs" in code can sometimes happen (written by humans and subject to "error").

When the right sequence of events happen unusual things can happen.
Stupid things like this example... "turning the air conditioning on high, then checking the trip odometer, and turning off the cruse control" (all controlled by same MPU) in that exact sequence...and the MPU outputs a very strange result... (doors lock, lights come on,fans run continuously)

Just by turning off the car and restarting it may have cleared the "bug" (reset the certain MPU) and it may NEVER return... OR ...you may have a problem beginning to show it's nasty head... I'm glad I'n not a car mechanic by trade!

That's why many times they "reprogram" the ECM (Engine Control Module) or BCM (Body Control Module) or TCM (Transmission Control Modules).

I'd keep an eye on the car and "if" other problems crop up DOCUMENT what you were doing at the time (speed of car,engine cold/hot,cruse on/off,....ect). It may help the KIA tech to pinpoint where the problem is...

Cars are not simple anymore with the fuel/economy, crash protection, air quality requirements, and ipod interfaces....Micro-computers won't go away and their presents will be seen and felt. It's not just "KIAs" They all have them.

The Forte has a known "bug" with hard shifting problems between 2nd and 3rd when the engine is first started. I don't know if they ever got that bug "squashed".

Your feedback to the dealer/KIA/service tech can sometimes REALLY help!
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The Forte has a known "bug" with hard shifting problems between 2nd and 3rd when the engine is first started. I don't know if they ever got that bug "squashed".
Dave, that "bug" has not been squashed. To the best of my knowledge the only owners who have had their transmission problem fixed, were given new transmissions. I had been working with a dealer on my problem but I discovered that they lied to me so now I don't trrust them. I'll need to start over with another dealer. And I just don't feel like it right now.
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I had this happen to me. The ESC actually engaged and they had to replace the ESC sensor. I should get the car back tomorrow. Ive got 1500 miles on my Forte Hatchback.
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WBW...
After reading of the nightmares involving Sorentos owned by nosretepand and Boston_Jeff today...I wish you well....
One thing that Boston_Jeff said is a good sugestion... Go to the dealer and get copies of the past service orders (front and back) before going after KIA Corporate. Also make a copy of the Service bulletins involving the transmission problems (so they KNOW you KNOW that they have problems with the transmissions. They can't buffalo you with BS.
Direct them to this forum and the documented problems by posters. Make sure you have all NEEDED maintenance performed DOCUMENTED also. Don't give them wiggle room....Cause they will try to blame you.
I'm kinda glad in a way I don't have a warranty on my 06 Spectra (it was totaled before I bought it and rebuilt by me). The OM says totaled vehicles void their warranty.
I wish you the best outcome with your car...
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