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I understand your frustration, but let me explain one thing.

The only one thing that keeps your car on the ground are tires. That's the most and the only thing that matters when comes to grip.
Hence, do not blame the car itself. Change the tires for winter tires.

I admit, many OEM tires sold with new cars are useless for snow. But that's just the way it is. No one can change it as the tires are what they are. They will be great in rain, summer hot day, but poor in snow.


Besides, NO tires can provide solid grip on ice. On ice only ice skates.


And final advise - cannot afford tires (that is your safety, your life - so change priorities)? Then simply drive slower. Snow, ice - take it very slow.


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That is way too much.
What Forte it is? What trim?

Mavis DT on their site lists 205/60x16 General Altimax for 420 installed (before taxes).

Or you can get a whole set of wheels (tires and rims) from tirerack for 700 (shipped)...

It may seem more expensive, but then you do not have to worry about installation. Just take them and swap them. However, you will need to store them somewhere.


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You know what, just stop whining.

Let's face some facts.
389 for a payment means nothing until we know what is the loan term. 389x12=4668, for 4 years it is 18672. Sounds OK for a basic Forte. Fortes are priced anywhere from 15k to over 27k (before taxes and so on).
Then, no car from a factory will have great tires. Maybe some performance cars get the best, but the rest get basic, inexpensive tires. Cheap tire is poor tire. Period.
And NONE all season tire is great in snow. Especially on about 2 year old car with unknown for us distance driven.

Put 25'000 miles on OEM tires and any snow will create ice skating experience.

Since it is 2015, it should be covered by manufacturer warranty. So if anything is wrong, take it to the dealer. Get them all the problems fixed.

Now, you are saying you paid too much? I am sorry, but you cannot blame KIA for your lack of knowledge. Dealers, I mean ALL dealers, anywhere in the world, are set on profit. Only extensive research, hours of your time spent on comparing prices, getting quotes, dealing with dealers, will result in good deal. And you cannot blame KIA for a sales person to take advantage of your lack of experience. Take it to the dealer manager, owner, and complain to them. I am sure they would like to fix it for you.


Finally, it is NOT the car that kills. It is not KIA. It is ultimately the driver who is responsible for not being able to control the car.
You say you will not spend any money on tires although you know very well they do not provide any grip. This is just like knowing that you have a fire in the kitchen, but you will not put it down, because you did not start it. It was the grease that leaked from the frying pan started burning. So blame the manufacturer of the pan, or the oil... Right?

C'mon girl. Start dealing with the problems the way they supposed to be taken care of.
Ask for an advice here. It will be given.


Poor grip? Have them look into alignment, check tires, check pressure. And finally adjust your driving technique.


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A word of advice, and a cautionary note.

You'll find many examples on this forum where members have been helped to secure the best result from Kia to problems, but for fellow members to rally and support, the problems need to be detailed and substantiated.
Unsubstantiated rants are not tolerated here, and in a few cases where it persists a ban is imposed.


Did you buy the car new?

What is the current mileage on the car?

What is the current mileage on the tires?

What is the name of the dealership that you're having a problem with?


Politics and religion are not to form part of any discussion here.

"kia consistently charges at least an extra 5k on all loans well above Kelly blue book" - please provide something to support this claim.

" for my well over hi payment not what car is even worth of 389 and change and my personal story could throw in some alive keeping snow tires" - not sure what that means, but you must have known your monthly instalments at the time of purchase, and if that fits your budget, and you'll not find any manufacturer out there prepared to supply replacement tires free of charge.

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I have deliberately stayed clear of this rant..

But, in all honest, it seems to be a case of the poor worker, blaming the tools for his shoddy work...

Grow up,take responsibility for you actions and decisions..

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Sounds to me like the op had a very bad experience during the last major snowstorm that hit the Northeast and her area of Syracuse. They get hit with winter just as bad as us around Buffalo NY, and their terrain is very hilly in that city. I am sorry for here financial situation as to not being able to afford proper winter preparations or probable maintenance of her Forte. But if she is old enough to have children, then she is old enough to know what is needed for winter driving in her area. Any responsible driver of any make of vehicle knows that they are responsible for proper preps for the road conditions of the area they live in.
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Doubtful that she'll be back to substantiate any of this based on posts she left on other sites. Don't really want to drop the 'T' word here but it is what it is, as they say.
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She is either a troll. Or just has bald tires, and thinks SOMEONE ELSE should pay for them..........
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Wat. I only got half way through the first sentence of op's post
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