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You guys are Fast! (or I'm slow). In any case I am steadily moving along on my new old car. Happy to see there is no reason to remove the cam. Couldn't figure out why I would want to. 138 thousand miles on the car. The timing belt says Kia, with the "H" stmbol also powergrip and Made in Korea. I wouldn't be surprised if it is original. AC belt was in terrible shape, everybody else dried and cracky. Is that the waterpump up on the other end of the head? Not really any reason to preemptively change it is there? Oh yeah, is it good to just use the Windy Wrench instead of trying for a good torque wrench install?
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Hi Qroger..
You didn't say what year Spectra you have...
Sounds like you have an original "type" belt... The engine is used in both the KIA and the Hyundai ("H" symbol). Usually you will find a "Bando" or a "Gates" brand belt..
You may be on the second belt and it may have been replaced by a KIA dealer OR it could be the original and you and the last owner were extremely lucky as they usually break right around 75~85k miles.

Do yourself a favor and buy only a GATES brand belt...More expensive but your engine relies on it. I have mentioned that the AC belt is usually bad at the first TB replacement (at 60k)..I found "Bando" belts on the AC and every one was cracked and on it's last leg...If the water pump is quiet and is not leaking..I'd say leave it alone for now...but do drain and refill the antifreeze and the automatic transmission fluids (no flushing of the transmission at 138k miles)... What are you trying to "torque" ? To remove the crank pulley bolt you just need a 22mm socket and a breaker bar laying on the ground... Disconnect the coils and just bump the starter (1/2sec)...Just that simple and the bolt is loose...
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Thanks for reply. I screwed up my courage and got the nut off as you describe. Now I'm wondering about putting back correctly.
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Oh, Sorry, It's a 2004 Spectra Ex with the 2 liter engine. 5 speed.
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Oh, It is 2004 Spectra EX 5 speed, 2 liter.
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You have a 2004.5 (new) Spectra.. The 2004 has a 1.8L and older body style..
The bolt for the crank.. you can tighten as tight as you can get it with the breaker bar...
I have done this on three Specs and they still are tight and no problems...
Read up on the tensioner also on the thread.. I believe that it is tensioned counter clockwise (i would have to check it myself). I found removing and oiling the AC tensioner threads made re-assembly easier also watch how it comes apart and what side of the pulley is towards you and where the washer goes... Easy "if" you take notes.. Like I've said before I wouldn't pay $600 to have the job done...I'd rather spend a small portion of that amount and buy some tools at Harbor Freight for the next time.. Put a set of NGK plugs in her also as they are probably worn out..
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That pulley with the four bolts is a pain for sure. Got one person under the car reaching up to hold the pulleys on while the 2nd person went in from the top and got the bolts threaded. The lower timing belt cover was another aggravation. wiggle wiggle Finally it went. I got to convince me wifey that a lift is necessary. And then of course a heated shop. Think of the money we'll save! I guess if I did another one, I'd be faster. Still I'm just grinding along. Not impossible, and now that I see what is involved, I really have no taste for donating $600 to $1000 to the shops.

As long as I'm at it, new plugs, and an oil change. I'll put replace the anti freeze on the list as well. Sometime tomorrow it should start. I'll keep you posted.
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Moving the power steering and AC lines bolted to the frame gives you more wiggle room also.. NC has to be warmer than Ohio today..
It will be worth the preventive maintenance when you really start driving the car. They are pretty durable and reliable... Just keep telling yourself "I'm almost done,,,I'm almost done,,,I'm almost done
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Warmer in NC? It almost looks like this year we'll get a fall. On a good year, that's where we get paid back for the sweaty and buggy summer, the drizzly winter and the un reliable spring. One nice day after another. I'm almost done. I'm almost done.
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How tight on the alt, power steering, AC compressor is tight enough? How tight is too tight? With the threaded adjuster on the AC and the Alt, you can make them as tight as a guitar string without much effort. I know that is too tight.

The power steering spit it's belt off, reminding me to check both mounting bolts for tightness. I hadn't threaded the bottom one in, all the way, allowing enough slop for the PS pump to get cocked and spit the belt off.

I think I'm done. I think I'm done. I think I'm done.
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