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picked up my new, to me, 2010 ceed 3 on Monday (5 door, 1.6 CRDi, 13150 Miles).

Stereo stopped working this morning, dealer is replacing it under warranty so not a major issue but I thought they were supposed to be reliable!!!

Other than this I am loving the car

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... they never were!

In fact, possibly the least reliable part of the whole car.

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thanks for the welcome, will have to keep an eye out for a good head unit then.

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Another way to look at it is...
It could have failed 1 week AFTER the warranties ended...
The replacement may last well beyond the rest of the car's life..

Things break.... Look at NASA and the failures over the years of their existance..
They spent Billions of dollars on designs and secondary backup systems..

The "radio" in your car is not a simple design...Customers want "features" and most of those features involve microprocessors, hundreds of thousands of internal parts/elements and human programing...

Be happy it wasn't the "fly by wire" accelerator pedal.. You "request" a change in speed and the ECM THEN acts on your request and increases or decreases the air/fuel mixture... No more throttle linkage (or even throttle cables)...

We rely upon microprocessors to control the lighting (signal indicating,brake lights) /windows/door locks/security/braking/heating&cooling/emmision control/and even the "simple" radio... With customer desired complexity comes higher chances of failures from design errors/programing errors/component breakdowns...
It won't get any better.... (Toyota's gas pedal problems is one).
I'd be happy that the radio died and not one of the above "critical" systems.
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^ amen to the above.

Btw, I got my radio replaced once under warranty, the second unit is relatively ok. (Not 100% satisfied with it, but I can use it on a daily basis (playing CDs), which was not the case with the replaced one). If I had a usb socket, I would not complain. It sometimes stops & ejects the CDs though...
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Things break.... Look at NASA and the failures over the years of their existance..
They spent Billions of dollars on designs and secondary backup systems..
The difference between a car and a space vehicle is that car manufacturers have the luxury of making millions of a product for an understood and relatively benign environment.

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It won't get any better.... (Toyota's gas pedal problems is one).
I'd be happy that the radio died and not one of the above "critical" systems.
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But electronics and software has been one of the contributors to vastly improved durability and reliability compared to 30/40 years ago.

The Toyota "problem" was partly mechanical but also the usual issue of elderly people and automatics when manoeuvring. It wasn't electronic.
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When electronics work they can be spectacular and concidering the parts count with in a microcontrolled device (and the chips) the failure rate is usually low...
Cars can operate much better "with" electronic controls over older mechanical devices... But my being involved with consumer/commercial/industrial electronics over 45 years I have seen some major blunders in designs and would rather have a KEY operated switch over a "push button" to start and stop my car. It's called a "fail safe" device that will allow me to regain control OVER the electronics...Same with brakes and the accelerator...
One programming bug (like INTEL had with their Pentium processor) could spell a tragedy.. I like/love electronics and the wonderful things they can do..I just like the knowledge "I have the last say" (pull the plug)
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I've found car stereos/radios remarkably reliable considering the harsh environment. Early CD players used to "jump tracks" on bumpy roads, but that seems to have been overcome. The quality of KIA stereos is pretty good; certainly not work chucking in favour of the ultimate sound.
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^ amen to the above.

Btw, I got my radio replaced once under warranty, the second unit is relatively ok. (Not 100% satisfied with it, but I can use it on a daily basis (playing CDs), which was not the case with the replaced one). If I had a usb socket, I would not complain. It sometimes stops & ejects the CDs though...
It would seem that if they get a CD read error they eject the CD rather than skip. I thought you would have a USB on a 3 model.

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Yep, my ceed 3 has a usb port
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