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#31 (permalink) Old 12-05-2012, 03:28 AM
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Of course they do. What's the alternative?

"We recommend that you have an occasional oil change but never mind, we will always fix it for nothing".
That is exactly what spencernj is suggesting, perhaps they will add it to the revised service books.
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#32 (permalink) Old 12-05-2012, 05:12 AM
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That is exactly what spencernj is suggesting, perhaps they will add it to the revised service books.
NO I AM NOT.

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#13. For clarity I have never said that if you do not get your car serviced as set-out in the manual (i.e. you breach the t&cs) that Kia cannot refuse warranty claims.

#19.Please read above I have never said that if you do not follow the conditions that they cannot refuse a claim but rather that a warranty contract cannot be voided by the breach of a particular requirement.

#26. Although other people have claimed I have said it, I have NEVER ever suggested that people ignore the warranty conditions or that you ignore the service schedule.

Which part of that is difficult to understand? Why are you deliberately mis-representing what I have said?

Yet again I will confirm that just because you fail to meet one or more condition in the service booklet does not mean that Kia can cancel the warranty under UK Law.

Equally I am not suggesting that people should not "accept that they made an error and resort to the "lets claim" ideology." as you have also stated. Again you are mis-reprenting my view. I make that clear that in #26. I am simply stating that if someone made an error does not mean that a car manufacturer can automatically cancel their warranty under UK Consumer Law. That is what consumer protection Law is for.

For what its worth I get my cars serviced by the dealers as I don't think its worth the hassle doing anything else. However, that does not change the legal position and people's ability to be treated fairly under the law as I did (see #19) when it was claimed I had breached Mercedes warranty conditions by having a repair done by a none approved garage.

I have presented you with a well referenced legal position and a real world example with Mercedes that proves my argument. Why cannot you accept either of these or if you disagree present a factual counter-argument?

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That is exactly what spencernj is suggesting,
Not at all.
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I guess it's best for all to "agree to dis-agree" and leave it at that...
I see tempers starting to rise to a boil and logic starting to get confused with the multiple posts and cross references...
Why not move on to something that might satisfy everyone as this thread looks like it will never be fully agreed upon..
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I guess it's best for all to "agree to dis-agree" and leave it at that...
I see tempers starting to rise to a boil and logic starting to get confused with the multiple posts and cross references...
Why not move on to something that might satisfy everyone as this thread looks like it will never be fully agreed upon..
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So lock or delete the thread then it cant go beyond where it is now.
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That would be restricting "freedom of speech" that we so badly need to protect.
Let's move on..
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But youre doing that by moderating!!!!!!!!

As you say, lets move on!
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I completely understand why Spencernj is getting mad.

Clearly he's a specialist in this matter and we should be rather grateful for all the information we've been given.
Reading it was like watching a Watchdog

Thanks Spencernj, I know a little bit more about my rights now.
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Ref: "But youre doing that by moderating!!!!!!!!"

My job!
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