http://www.kia-forums.com/kia-ceed-forum/61223-ceed-sw-eco-blue-smoke-starting.html

 

Surely Kia should be fixing this under the 7 year warranty and if the Police are telling you to get it fixed Kia should surely be getting it sorted otherwise they will be in a poor position when you get a ticket.

All diesels smell a little of unburned fuel at start up but blue smoke is not unburned fuel. Overfueling in a diesel car results in black smoke, blue smoke at start up (at any time actually) is burning engine oil. At start up it used to result from worn rings or valve guides but it could be a turbo problem if the oil seals have become prematurely worn.

It the car is one year old and has just been serviced (just a guess) did the garage use the correct oil, with modern diesels its essential. Ours goes in for its first service next week, the dealer where we bought the car confirmed the oil must be fully synthetic 5w/30 C3 spec just as the handbook says, another dealer I got a price from (no cheaper) uses Ford spec oil which is incorrect for the car. Local dealer confirmed if the wrong spec oil is used the warranty is immediately invalid.

You should not be spending £1000's changing the car when its not your problem. Get the Police to issue an advisory (think they still do this i.e. get it fixed within so many days and then prove it), Kia will have to act then.

 

Good evening,
Thanks for the advice and I hate to disagree but as a diesel engineer of many years standing, incorrectly burning diesel fuel will indeed produce blue smoke and the smell gives it away and the misfiring confirms it beyond reasonable doubt.
I am suspicious of the glow plugs but refuse point blank to do any mechanical work on my car whilst it is under warranty. I have already had to repair the handbrake and o/s/f window because my dealer was incapable !! I have already been told by a Kia dealer that they won't be able to rectify the smoking issue if there are no warning lights showing....brilliant.
I like my car as advised previously but will not put up with second rate mechanicals and useless dealers.
I need a car to function correctly and if returning to a Dagenham Dustbin gives me this function then needs must.

 

Try a different dealer. Get an independant specialist to advise.

Diesel engineer or not oil burns blue and diesel burns black, simples.

 

This has been discussed previously on the forum, with the same confusion about smoke colour. I believe that COLD unburned diesel smoke is white and can easily be confused with blue smoke emitted by burning engine oil.

Back to the point, There HAVE been issues with glow plugs on these cars, I had one replaced when my cee'd 2010 115 crdi was new. Other problems include (over?)sensitivity to cheap quality diesel. You might want to try a chemical engine cleaner additive followed by a cetane booster additive and see if that helps.

After one or two initial problems with the engine sounding like a can of nails and frequent dpf regenerations (probably masking a white/blue smoke problem), my car has run-in to behave flawlessly.

 

Hi amistilhappy,

Coming from a former ford owner, I have to say switching to kia was the best choice I made, probably more because my Focus was the runt of the litter...

Anyway, I advise that whilst the car is smoking you take it to the dealer, and you sit it infront of their building in front of their shiny new cars, and you let it smoke all over them...

1) they wont be happy cleaning soot off the shiny cars
2) it proves a point that the car doesnt need to say "I have a massive problem" for their to actually be a problem!
3) if you cant attack their cars with diesel fumes - record a video on your phone, being sure to record from door opening, to engine starting and to the plumes of smoke from the exhaust. Sometimes as well as playing dealers off against each other (by the way I agree with SW3 you should try another dealer also) then you have to play it like they are idiots, and you have to spell it out and show them every tiny little ailment to get them to look.

Otherwise if they review video footage and see nothing, then I see it as you should be able to send that footage to Kia UK and let them put in their 5p's worth!

Did the copper have a camera in the car? if so might be worth (as stupid as it sounds) requesting a copy of the clip. Cant exactly be falsified by a policeman on duty, not like you would have planned to screw the engine / fuel just to get it to appear that way!)

 

Can anyone help me please. The car is one year old and has covered 13,000 miles.

Mine started doing the same at about the same mileage. I went through a few weeks of contacting the dealer, watching reports on this forum from others who had the same issue, etc etc.
Then I tried some Millers Diesel Power EcoMax after someone else recommended it as it cured their smoking. I didn't believe it would help as the smoking seemed more serious than an additive could solve, plus I never believed these sorts of products actually worked. But then a bottle is only £9.50 delivered of eBay, so I gave it a try. It was certainly easier than driving to the dealers a few times and loosing the car for a few days.
The first time I filled up the car, I added a double strength mix, then added the normal strength on subsequent fill ups. That was back on 17th Feb and the car has never smoked since. This stuff definitely works and it did do the trick.
I now only put the Millers in when I fill up at supermarket stations. And I'm now only just getting to the bottom of my first £9.50 bottle, so I can highly recommend trying this solution first before wasting more time the main dealer(s) or fretting about it. Definitely don't consider changing car yet - it's not that serious. However, I can understand your feelings because I was very upset and embarrassed when mine was smoking. I was filling the road with smoke at times. The Millers sorted it within a week.

 

Millers fuel additive fixed mine too, it was smoking like a third world HGV. Forget glow plugs, direct injection diesels do not require them for a clean start at UK ambient temperatures unless the temperature is way below freezing. It is dirty diesel injectors causing the smoke.

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As you can see from the other thread i had this problem too.
sorry i wont be able to help but i would of thought they would of got this sorted by now. i did get it sorted but it was only due to it being a motoability car, motability were the only ones that would help, the dealers didn't have a clue and as far as im concerned nor did kia. i too came from ford but like you said hindsight ect.
As have been said i would go to another dealership and see if you can get any further as some just dont have a clue and look at you as if they dont know what your on about. anyway enough of me going on but i do hope you get this sorted, just dont be fobbed off with them, you just have to be like a dog with bone and dont let it go because there is a fault, it doesn't matter if there is no codes popping up or anything like that, this shouldn't happen full stop no matter what colour the smoke.
Motability told me that they had quite a few ceeds back because of this problem last year when i was going through the same as it was embarrassing , and this was from one of there engineers too. so just goes to show there is a problem.
If it wasn't because of this issue we would of been and were very happy with the car as it was a lovely car, just unfortunately that the after care wasn't up to scratch in my own opinion, could go on for ages but they just want to fob you off, but dont let them.
head the dealership this way to this forum and that might just help a little to let them know there is a problem, might not help but you never know.

 

That is a lot of self inflicted grief, the quick easy fix is on this forum. I sorted my car and it has not smoked for eight months, if it does I will sort it again.

 

not when ur fighting a battle against cancer deeps, its the last thing you need on your mind. so let someone else sort it while you need reliable transport to get to hospital in a emergency. unfortunately my lovely wife lost the battle in august just gone. so like i said you need reliable transport when you got more pressing matters on your mind.

oh and there wasnt a "quick and easy fix" on here at the time.

 

My car has always been totally reliable. The startup smoke made no difference to the running of my car.

 

you were lucky then deeps, ours ran rough for a couple of miles untill it cleared itself. that is one thing you dont expect from a car that aint even got 3k on the clock. so the quick fix didnt work anyway on ours. i know there was iirc 5 ceeds in our dealership at the same time with the same problem and they still tried to palm you off. it doesnt matter if there was a quick fix or not, you should never expect that from a new car no matter what, totally unacceptable and the after service was a joke as a few on here know.

 

I agree that KIA did themselves no favours over this problem, you can include Hyundai in that too.

You just can't win, the new Focus I bought in 2005 was off the road for three weeks when it was six months old awaiting modified parts after a fault which made it dangerous to drive. At least Ford gave me a Mondeo while my car was off the road.

 

I followed the original thread for quite a while as my Proceed has exactly the same problem. However I learned that I could prevent the smoking/misfire by switching the ignition on and waiting a while after the dashboard light goes off before starting the engine.

I know many people will feel that I ought to take it to the dealer but I need the car for business and can't afford to be without a car. My workaround is simple and effective.

Daz

 

yeh that did help a few by doing that daz but it didn't with ours, we tried everything, the injectors were supposedly changed ect but what ever they did at the dealers they couldn't get it fixed even though they said it was, it even filled the car park when we went to pick it up when it was "fixed".
shame really cos we both loved the car.