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Old 04-23-2008, 07:33 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Thanks for the feedback.

It is the short journeys which are the main cause of the low mpg especially in stop go traffic. One particular problem I have had is the car has stalled on me a few times in first gear and I tend to over accellerate moving off to prevent the embarrassment of holding up traffic.

Today I had a 46 mpg journey of about 35 miles, hopefully this will be the first swallow of the summer for me.
Thats another reason to go for 1.6 (or 2.0 even better) diesel because it's nearly impossible to stall. It is so easy to drive off 1'st gear you don't realy need to use accelerator at all. It reminds me of automatic gearbox which I wanted to get but went for 1.6 diesel manual due to fuel economy and tax system changes from July here in Ireland
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:50 AM   #42 (permalink)
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snip...I wanted to get but went for 1.6 diesel manual due to fuel economy and tax system changes from July here in Ireland
You lucky so-and-so HalfFull.

I bought my Kia Cee'd 1.6 Deisel last year, June 2007, so I don't qualify for the Irish Road Tax changes

Now, my car will have CO2 emissions same as yours, but due to stupid Government Bureaucracy (Green Party), I will have to pay Road Tax of approx 3 times what 2008 buyers will pay.

How does this make sense.

Sorry for going off-topic, but I am so MAD.

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Old 06-02-2008, 01:48 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Hey guys, only joined here the other day to learn more about my cee'd. As i said in my intro, my main goal is minimum L/100k and have been trying out the cee'd when i get the chance. Which isn't often as my wife drives it mostly. Her tank averages were 5L/100k and so were mine, which confused the hell out of me! But then it was only running in so i had to wait. Recently, i've been getting a tank average of 4.5L/100k which is nice. I did do very well one evening though and got it down to 2.5L/100k over 30km i think. I was after that but haven't been able to get that since. I work nights so i can take my time going on an empty road. I can get it down to 3.5 for a good few km but it magically comes back up even though i (out of rage!!) slow even more to see WTF is going on!!
I have a lot to learn about diesels and am hearing lots of people saying i have to "drive her on" or it will apparently fill up with soot! Is this the way it is with diesels? Then how does the EPA come out with a figure that may not be possible?

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Old 06-03-2008, 10:52 AM   #44 (permalink)
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as with all diesels I know from work, and most petrols too, the harder you drive more responsive it gets. I mostly drive in the city, but after a good 50km or more of 150-170km/h on the motorway, it feels at least 10HP stronger.

for diesels, the most important thing is to avoid driving below turbo area too much, slow gas flows chokes the engine, especially if you use lousy fuel. this is even more important if you have particle filter on board, because filter cleaning procedure requires certain revs for a period of time to complete
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Old 07-05-2008, 10:41 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Just a final update. Over the past couple of months I have been averaging about 40mpg which is what I had orginally anticipated. The improvement has come partly I suspect from the warmer weather and better driving. I find the trip recorder fairly accurate to the manual calculations I have made ( I am retired and have time on my hands ). The jump in fuel price has thrown out my finely crafted monetary calculations, projected over 7 years, between saving on the purchase of a petrol car versus the economy of a diesel. Thats life.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:01 PM   #46 (permalink)
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But aren't you even better off now what with the increase in the differential between diesel and petrol? OK, overall it's all become more expensive.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:44 AM   #47 (permalink)
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At my local esso, UL:116.9, D:129.9 so roughly 10% premium on Diesel

Petrol does 44mpg on a run, Diesel does 53mpg. That's more like 20% benefit.

Diesel still wins, so long as you get the diesel for petrol price for the car. Just got Kia magazine, and that offer is back on.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:06 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Everytime I fill up I am putting in £50 which is 8.33 imperial gallons at £1.30 a gallon.

The last time I worked out my mpg as 46 miles to a gallon doing 385 miles on a tank.. This is excellent when you consider my car is 75% town driving with stop/start and lots of idling as I use it for deliveries. The trip computer shows 42 mpg.

The last such measured tanks was 51 mpg a and 49mpg. (Obviously I did a little more out of town driving)

I refill when the computer shows "---" of fuel remaining.

No time has the computer been accurate (I do not reset at each filling) but next time I refill I will reset the computer.

Overall I am pleased with the mpg and notice it has got better now that I have done 3600 miles and the engine is starting to bed in.

I agree with previous message that diesel engines respond to being worked hard as they clear out the engine/exhaust.

Anyone else measuring in such a way?
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:51 AM   #49 (permalink)
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No, not doing it this way, mainly cos I was afraid to in case it was as carp as it felt (guage needle falling rapidly). Maybe I should as I seem to be seeing much better numbers now the weather has warmed up. Drove 50+ miles one way yesterday, 4 adults in car and had 57.x on the computer when we got there. I had reset before start.
Similarly I've not done it for the same reasons in my other car and I'm happy with the numbers I'm seeing there - 30+ usually on a commute and an overall average of 30.2 over 27k miles.
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:44 AM   #50 (permalink)
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With my 1.4 petrol engine i'm doing around 8l/100km (35 MPG), with 90% city driving - that means again, 90% of that city driving is stop-go as these days traffic jams are becoming the way of life here

I'm seriously considering the LPG option that costs 1050 eur and it would be done by KIA service so the warranty stays intact.
I have traveled 20000km so far in about 8 months so if we take the price difference of 1:2 LPG/Petrol, I came up with only 8 months until I refund the expenses for isntallation and all other costs (homologation, paperology....). Not so bad at all
So for all of you Petrol heads, sonsider installing the LPG.
After all, one will have huge range with 55 l of petrol and 35 l of LPG in the tanks hihihi

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