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Old 04-24-2006, 07:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,

Sedona diesel LX Auto, 02, 30,000 odd thousand miles on the clock.

I have already made a brief reference to this problem in an other post but felt I hadn't discribed the problem adequetly.

I had no responces to the post and figured it was my vehicle, my problem.

At first I thought I was imangining it, then an inncident happend a few weeks ago and confirmed I wasn't then nothing more 'till a couple of days ago and then today
and what happen today has put the fear of Chr*st up me.

At the moment I'm no longer looking for answers, the purpose of this thread is to inform.

As I sat down to write this post I came across Geoff Hazel thread of today, along with Drivers and Inky's.

I hope Geoff doesn't mind I have taken a section of his post and quote it below as he describes the problem perfectly,

" The car will be going, but basically idling, and no matter what you do to the pedal, the car has no response. After a few seconds, 5-20 seconds, it becomes responsive again, Impossible to reproduce on command, .

Let me set the scene, today I was doing a favour for a friend and collected a couple of his kids from school, the're duly strapped in, no worries but I was in a bit of a hurry.

I was driving in two way trafic and overtook a box van, there was a vehicle heading towards me, I guess a third of a mile up the road, and a Mini behind me
so out I went, then nothing, excactly as Geoff discribes it except I was in an overtaking situation and this time with kids onboard.

There was no response from the gas pedal, I wasn't going anywhere, steering wasn't affected, it was like coasting, slowing down but no change in engine pitch, no warning lights, I was throttling the pedal, nothing.

It's hard to estimate how long it lasted, 10 maybe more seconds, I know the Mini went past me and at least two other vehicles.

The vehicle, its driver coming towards me reacted very slowly, I don't blame him, he couldn't have known.

Panic took over, I steered my vehicle back to my side, cutting up an other driver but I had no choice.

Then as quickly as the non-responsive pedal happend everything went back to being OK again, no jerkiness, the acceleration picked up where it had left off.

The kids knew something was wrong, OK some cans of coke and some sweets took care of it but they got a fright.

I don't care if I'm accused of scare mongering, but in as many weeks there have been four or five reports of this problem being posted.

This is a problem and an accident waiting to happen.

Clearly, if the same problem it doesn't just affect diesels or oldish Sedonas.

Sedona owners, beware the problem exists even if it hasn't happen to you.

I don't know how pravilent this problem is, to all Sedona owners, where ever you be, if this has happend to you in the pass or does happen to you please report here on this forum, lets see if we can identifi this specific problem and get it sorted,
cos' it could happen to you.
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Scary one, Seacam. I just ran outside & checked our 2.5 petrol & it's definitely a cable connection. Is the Diesel a "Fly by Wire" electronic job? Good luck with it.
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This is a serious problem, definitely a safety issue. I would contact the department that initiates safety issues over there in the UK as a matter of urgency before there are some serious accidents.

KIA needs to come clean on this one quickly if they are aware, before there is someone killed.


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Old 04-25-2006, 01:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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was an engine check light on?
if you press the brake and gas at the same time it will cut the fuel.

was it perhaps an automatic gearbox issue?
were you accelerating during the occurance?
do you have cruise control fitted?
did you try to brake or change anything during the event?

I still avoid meastros because of their crappyness perhaps I should be more wary of sedonas too.

my mate was in a 60,000 twin supercharged landrover the other day that went into limp mode and trickled along at 10 mph.. the driver stopped it and switched off for 30 seconds in order to perform a "hard reboot" of the engine management system then drove along normally again...
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Old 04-25-2006, 02:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hello Clartsonly,

"was an engine check light on"?. Absolutly nothing before, durring afterwards.

If you press the brake and gas at the same time it will cut the fuel". It was you that pointed that out me last year on an other issue. The answer is no, the question is, this is an automatic, in what driving circumstances/conditions would you want to press the gas & brake pedal at the same time?

"Was it perhaps an automatic gearbox issue?." It could be, in my thread I said it felt like coasting, the time it happen before last, I was driving up my high street, I was determined next time it happend to look at things, again as in this time no warning lights of any type but I also checked to see if my left knee had somehow disengaged the select lever on the Auto box, I had also priviously thought that perhaspe my knee had pressed the hold button on the lever, perhaspe that might have caused it, but no, no contact. Some of the other threads on this matter are not automatics.

"Were you accelerating during the occurance"?. Yes, as I said I was overtaking a box van.

"Do you have cruise control fitted?". No I don't,----- but I'd like it.

"Did you try to brake or change anything during the event?". No I didn't.
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Old 04-25-2006, 02:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hello Esses, yes it was scarry,

I' don't know if my vehicle is Fly by Wire.
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Old 04-25-2006, 03:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hello Cpapashley,

You're right but like any car manafacture Kia need more then one or two incidents before they admit or accept there is a problem.

It's why I have asked for other Sedona owners responses on this issue, if there out there.
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally posted by seacam@Apr 26 2006, 05:02 AM
Hello Cpapashley,

You're right but like any car manafacture Kia need more then one or two incidents before they admit or accept there is a problem.

It's why I have asked for other Sedona owners responses on this issue, if there out there.
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Hmm...wouldn't it be a good facility to be able to look up a central database of KIA's recorded technical complaints (not level of service toward the customers) as well as this excellent forum. Instead of having the seige mentality, openness would mean that real issues would be speedily rectified rather than treating them as another "complaint". Sometimes complaints are real issues, like I suspect this one may be.

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seacam,

Glad all came out unscathed.

You refereneced seeing my post. After reading your post and the others that have been made recently, it's all sounding like this is the same problem.

Mine has done this four times. Twice in a row, while I was driving (both times while accelerating). The other two, the wife was driving. Mine acted like it was being starved of fuel so I was thinking fuel pump or fuel filter but now it's looking like the problem has to do with a sensor.
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