Originally Posted by Guy10596
can you tell me what they are using for a timing mark on the crank i see the small dowel in the crank but i dont see and blue or red
As you are from the US I'll assume you have the 3.5L engine, in which case the clip below is probably what you are looking for.
This is from the Kia Global Information website www.kiatechinfo.com
, in the Service Materials / Service Info (SI) section, under SEDONA(GQ) >2005 > G 3.5 DOHC > Engine Mechanical System. If you haven't already you can easily sign up to the site and obtain access to the complete service manuals for the vehicle.