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Old 02-08-2007, 06:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Info needed on the 2.5 V6engine

I need all info I can get on the 2.5 liter V6 engine in the Carnival 2000. This is because of the head gasket problem. This car has only 60.000km, excellent service record on it and still the gasket is gone and a hefty price tag is on the repair. From Wikipedia I find that the 2.5 Liter engine could be the KV6 from Powertrain in the UK and it this head gasket problem.

Are there any other types of a V6, 2.5 liter engine that KIA used in the Carnival?

Can anyone help me to get confirmed info on the engine types that KIA has used in the Carnival? Is there any info where KIA admits that this is a known failure for this engine? I'm supposed to pay 3500 USD for the repair so I think its worth the time to get useful information. I can't see anywhere in the car manuals or on the engine if it is the KV6 or what type/model this engine is. The KIA agent in my country refuses to admit that this is a design failure in the engine and claims that this is not the KV6. KIA has not replied my e-mails. I have seen on the net that Australians have had their share of the head gasket failure in a 2.5 liter engine in the Carnival. Is it the same engine, what did KIA Australia do about it?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I need all info I can get on the 2.5 liter V6 engine in the Carnival 2000. This is because of the head gasket problem. This car has only 60.000km, excellent service record on it and still the gasket is gone and a hefty price tag is on the repair. From Wikipedia I find that the 2.5 Liter engine could be the KV6 from Powertrain in the UK and it this head gasket problem.

Are there any other types of a V6, 2.5 liter engine that KIA used in the Carnival?

Can anyone help me to get confirmed info on the engine types that KIA has used in the Carnival? Is there any info where KIA admits that this is a known failure for this engine? I'm supposed to pay 3500 USD for the repair so I think its worth the time to get useful information. I can't see anywhere in the car manuals or on the engine if it is the KV6 or what type/model this engine is. The KIA agent in my country refuses to admit that this is a design failure in the engine and claims that this is not the KV6. KIA has not replied my e-mails. I have seen on the net that Australians have had their share of the head gasket failure in a 2.5 liter engine in the Carnival. Is it the same engine, what did KIA Australia do about it?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
I believe that the engine you have is the same as the australian carnivals recieved.
Post a pic and I'll confirm whether it is the KV6 motor.
Australian KIA replaced about 3000 engines with new ones and I understand rebuilt another couple of thousand on top of that figure.

If you do a search on carpoint.com.au I think you will find enough references to the problem and KIA's acknowledgement of the problem in the Australian motoring media.

Also do a search on this forum because a lot of discussion on the issue has happened here previously.
Good luck.
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Old 02-09-2007, 03:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I need all info I can get on the 2.5 liter V6 engine in the Carnival 2000. This is because of the head gasket problem. This car has only 60.000km, excellent service record on it and still the gasket is gone and a hefty price tag is on the repair. From Wikipedia I find that the 2.5 Liter engine could be the KV6 from Powertrain in the UK and it this head gasket problem.

Are there any other types of a V6, 2.5 liter engine that KIA used in the Carnival?

Can anyone help me to get confirmed info on the engine types that KIA has used in the Carnival? Is there any info where KIA admits that this is a known failure for this engine? I'm supposed to pay 3500 USD for the repair so I think its worth the time to get useful information. I can't see anywhere in the car manuals or on the engine if it is the KV6 or what type/model this engine is. The KIA agent in my country refuses to admit that this is a design failure in the engine and claims that this is not the KV6. KIA has not replied my e-mails. I have seen on the net that Australians have had their share of the head gasket failure in a 2.5 liter engine in the Carnival. Is it the same engine, what did KIA Australia do about it?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Aleks,

Sad to hear you have been subjected to this rather poor effort at engineering, mind you the kv6 engine in its first incarnation in the rover burnt many people as well as this engine burning many in the landrover freelander. You may find that this vehicle was also sold in iceland.

It is important to note that the head gasket failure is a consequence of the actual problem of cylinder liners that have moved their way into the block. Many have been "burnt" by this in australia as you have read. For me not once but twice, and making such a huge loss on the car has affected us financially for many years to come as we had to remortgage our home to get another car.

As Classic boy said there is lots of information available on the net.

I am not too sure what information is still there though.

As far as your circumstances, if it is the first time this failure has occurred (40,000-60,000 km is the normal range for the first failure, although manual cars last to 100,000kms) then KIA should be pretty quick to fix the problem. If it is the second time and the car has had a reconditioned engine put in then it is a matter of discretion. The car is now 7 years old and the car may have a dismal resale value like in australia, so the amount of recourse you can get from KIA may well be minimal.

If you need any more info just let me know.
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi

Here are at last some pictures of the 2,5 liter V6 engine. Can someone confirm that this is the same engine as in the Australian KIA Caravans?

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Old 02-23-2007, 12:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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certainly looks like the engine aleks, mind you our dismal carnival was sold last year in april/may so I cannot confirm by looking and comparing with something.

From memory though I doubt there is any other options, unless it is a hyundai engine and then it would have hyundai all over it. So if it is a kia engine (check the oil pan from underneath) then I would say it is the dismal copy of the rover kv6 engine.
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Yep, that's the KV6 as in our '05 Carnival. If you go to drive.com & search "Carnival" you should find several statements by Kia execs acknowledging the problem & guarantee-ing a fix.
The Carnival here ONLY used the KV6, though America got a Mitsubishi/Hyundai derived 3.5 V6 + the Turbo-Diesel in Europe. The new SWB Carnival here now uses the Hyundai 2.7 V6. The Grand Carnival uses the 3.8 V6, a development of the 3.5. Good luck with it.
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