Anyone know if you can use fresh vegetable oil?

[PeteB_2000]

In the 2.9 CRDI Sedona by way of adding as a fuel mix possibly starting at 10%

Pete

[93fxdl]

there is lots of infomation about on running on veggie oil but there is also lots of missinformation about and since the fuel system on a crdi sedona has a reputation for being fragile you need to find out what are the real facts i enquired on this forum and one reply was from an owner who was running approx 50% veggie but as far as i know french diesel is 5% veggie so your 10% mix isnt that far away try having a look at bio-power on the web their site gives info on making your own diesel and the info on duty payable
best of luck and let us know how it goes glenn
ps a friend of mine ran a vauxhall corsa on 50/50 and it ran fine and another aquantance ran a 2.5 peugeot on 50/50 but both of them cut back to 70/30 as the exhaust was a bit aromatic and they wernt exactly telling the tax man!!!!!!!!!!

[PeteB_2000]

yeah ive read loads about it and are keen to experiment but what i cannot
find out is wether anyone with a sedona can give it the green light, ive read that certain fuel pumps are a no no but i dont know whats in mine.

Even rang local kia garage today and asked if i can out biofuel in it, dunno was the answer you need to speak to a specialist......errr arent you suppose to be kia "specialists" or do we just pay £50 per hour for nothing

still in the dark really and dont know where to turn

Pete

[93fxdl]

in my thread cheap diesel "pepper" replied that he had run 50/50 in his motor all ok, as for the "dunno" comment from your dealer this seems to be almost an industry standard at the moment, it seems that if you do you are on your own but i have heard that peugeot have instructed their dealers to test the fuel on any injection related warranty claims and if veggie found then reject it The problem with running veg oil is it has a higher viscosity than petro diesel which can cause the pump to "stall" which tends to cause all sorts of expensive problems i did hear of a hdi citroen in which the pump in the tank couldnt push the oil through so the high pressure pump ran dry and siezed which broke the cambelt and so bent some valves
but there is a plus side veggie is a very good luricant so a low mix should help to stave off the sedona pump blues which seems to affect some people
glenn

[PeteB_2000]

could you paste a link please to the thread you have spoke of

cheers
pete

[93fxdl]

not too hot on how to paste a link but the thread is on page 6 of the pre06 sedona forum

[PeteB_2000]

found your thread thanks, guy says he is running fine on it, have pm`ed him to see if this is the case, how come you have not tried it yet?

[PeteB_2000]

btw what is the difference between this area and that area as they are both active

[carmonkey]

I phoned Kia UK and surprise surprise they said a very deffinate 'no way' - and that it would invalidate warrenty.

I'm nearly out of warrenty though and would investigate again.

Should SHOULD be safe with 10% but who knows.

I would love more info if you do have a go.

[PeteB_2000]

I emailed Kia and received this reply

"Dear Sir

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the use of Biodiesel fuel in your Kia fitted with a 2.9 CRDi engine. Your communication has been forwarded to the UK for response.

There is no technical reason why the vehicle should not run on biodiesel providing the fuel used meets the right standards and octane rating, however I must advise that Kia Motors have not carried out any long term testing and therefore do not warrant the use of biofuels. If a fault develops that is directly attributable to the type of fuel used then it would not be covered by the manufacturers warranty. Biodiesel is also a very good solvent and may have a longer term affect on rubber seals, etc. within the fuel system.

I have quoted below a section from a motoring website which highlights some of the areas to be aware of as a user of this fuel:

What should motorists be aware of if considering using Biodiesel?

* Motorists should ensure that the biodiesel they intend to use meets the standards set out by law and that their fuel supplier will guarantee that.
* Motorists need to be aware of biodiesel's freezing properties and may need to take precautions. In very cold conditions, biodiesel does gel faster than petroleum diesel.
* Biodiesel is a good solvent so it is recommended to wipe any biodiesel or biodiesel blend spills from painted surfaces immediately. Biodiesel also has the benefit of acting like a solvent to clean the engine. If the engine has been previously running on conventional diesel this can result in an initial need to change fuel filters until sludge left by petroleum fuel is purged.
* Biodiesel soaked rags should be stored in a safety can or dried individually to avoid the potential for spontaneous combustion.

I trust this information is of use.

Yours faithfully

Kevin Todd, Customer Services

Kia Motors (UK) Ltd"