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This has been happening to my 2006 Sedona over the last two years and has not been able to be resolved by the dealer. I have taken the matter into my own hands and have finally found a solution. When the vehicle doesn't start, I simply go to the fuse panel under the steering wheel and remove the relay labeled "alternator." I then plug it back in (a hard reset) and the car starts. I know this works, but I don't know why. Anyone who is more mechanical than me have any ideas?
This works for us as well.

That gives 2 x simple options when the van fails to start.

1. Press the starter relay contacts together undr the hood/bonnet.
2. Pull and replace the Alternator relay under the steering wheel.
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Default hi to all

I would like to thank all friend about their post especially : gtd2000

I have 2006 3.8 sedona(called carnival in the country i live Saudi Arabia) , Unfortunately, I had the same problem with my car I visit the dealer and other car electrician but NO ONE helped to solve the problem

Mr. gtd2000 you said at old post that you will attach a video to strat car using the logic of your GF !! can you please do that ..... really that will help me in critical and Embarrassing situation

did you find the solution ? what is your opinion after testing ? is it Ok ? if yes please try to summarize it

do you think if I replaced the Fuse BOX (with new one or at least second hand one) will fix this problem ?

Many Thanks ALL
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Mr. gtd2000 you said at old post that you will attach a video to strat car using the logic of your GF !! can you please do that ..... really that will help me in critical and Embarrassing situation

did you find the solution ? what is your opinion after testing ? is it Ok ? if yes please try to summarize it

do you think if I replaced the Fuse BOX (with new one or at least second hand one) will fix this problem ?

Many Thanks ALL
I can make a video of starting the car if you like but it's very easy to understand without that.

You just need to push the contacts together on the starter relay (engine bay next to battery) which is the relay on the right side of the picture below (the grey cover has been removed) You can use a plastic pen or non-conductive object for safety!



If you'd like another option you can pull out the brown relay in the picture below and then push it back in again - then try to start the car once more.

This relay is in the fuse panel below the steering wheel by your left knee. I find this quite tricky to do as my fingers are a bit big but it's possible. Just turn off the ignition - pull the relay. Push it back in - then try to start the car.



The permanent solution is to connect a wire according to this diagram:



If you replace the fuse box (IPS Module) that will probably cost around US$500 but there's no guarantee that the problem won't come back, as it's the same low quality part. It also needs to be re-programmed for your remote key fobs too.

I'm going to do the wiring job - probably in 2 weeks time - I'll take some photos when I do this and post them here when I get it done

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Here's the photo of the locations for the various connectors to do the wiring job:

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The permanent solution is to connect a wire according to this diagram:



I'm going to do the wiring job - probably in 2 weeks time - I'll take some photos when I do this and post them here when I get it done

hi Mr. gtd2000
I will wait your job of wiring hope you can success of this experiment, don't forgot to upload all pictures to can apply

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I will wait your job of wiring hope you can success of this experiment, don't forgot to upload all pictures to can apply

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Will do
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OK here's a video of starting the van using a pen...

Starting the Van with IPS Module Fault present

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OK here's a video of starting the van using a pen...

Starting the Van with IPS Module Fault present
thank you very much for the video ,

I think that I found the solution for this problem , but I cant publish it until ensuring that it efficient and work 100% .. so please wait me for few days not more that 3 days and I will take photos about that solution


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thank you very much for the video ,

I think that I found the solution for this problem , but I cant publish it until ensuring that it efficient and work 100% .. so please wait me for few days not more that 3 days and I will take photos about that solution


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Sounds interesting
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well friends,

I think that our problem not with alarm system (my car have no alarm system) the solving of not starting our cars because of a pad part called "Natural Safety Switch"
part number for both Sedona (Carnival) and Entourage is 42700-39050 and/or 42700-39055 (picture for this part >> click here http://cds.activant.com/C2C/C01/86/310/64684691.jpg)


about me (I tried to clean the connection but seems this part need to be replaced it is located under battery but you can see it and you can plug and unplug its connection without removing battery)

I find an article about this switch may we can interact with

http://www.life123.com/cars-vehicles...y-switch.shtml

am waiting this part from my dealer I will install it ASAP i will get it

I need your comment and opinion about it

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