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hello my wife has a 2007 kia rondo 2.4l with 66k on it. just yesterday it did the weirdest thing. we have been driving for about 30 mins when my wife pulled into a turning lane and stopped at the stop light. right when it turned green and she let off the brake the car died it didnt sputter or shake it just died so we started it back up and drove home. later on last night we went out to the store and it drove fine. we were in the store for about 20 mins. on our way back home i drove the car and it did it again and the weird thing is the exact same conditions pulled into a turning lane and stopped, when letting of the brake to go it died again. we drove it home and my wife is all tore up because the warranty is expired plus we still owe the finance company a hefty amount of cash. i tried twice to try and re-create it to see if any lights came on right before it died but no luck. please can someone help me here on what it could be and what i can do
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You could look for "vacuum leaks". Check for hoses off their connectors in the area around the brake booster.
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You need to get it scanned for codes. There may be a code stored without the check engine light being on. Autozone and Advanced do this for free.

Have you had any other issues? Poor performance? Won't start after getting gas?
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Did you buy the car used? If you bought it new, then the powertrain warranty is still in effect until 100k miles....assuming you are in the US. I would be leaning toward a vacuum leak. Does it do it before or after you press the gas pedal? I would agree with getting it checked for codes.

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always helps us with questions if you fill our your location and drives profile on the left side so we are not guessing - thanks.
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Ok I went to oreilys and hooked up the obd2 scanner and no codes. Looked under the hood in the deep abyss around the brake booster and no vacuum leaks. I drove around all day didn't do it so I turned it off for about 30 mins and tried again and nothing. I did notice a diagnostic plug under the hood what can I do to try and retrieve codes from that. Could it just have been a batch if bad gas. Maybe the fuel filter sucked up something nasty to cause it? I'm stumped
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Always helps us with questions if you fill our your location and drives profile on the left side so we are not guessing - thanks.
For example, if it's really hot, you might get fuel-line vaporisation while stopped over hot tarmac. BTW, there's been record high temperatures in Australia lately. Up to 50°C in places (122°F -that's hot).
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You know what is funny, unless you have a good amount of knowledge about fixing cars, diagnosing cars, knowing what kinds of things cause these problems, save yourself a lot of wasted time and money and lots of frustration, and just bring it in to either a dealer, or a very well trusted independent mechanic, someone you trust or comes recommended by friends or family, and get it checked out properly and fixed properly. It blows my mind how many people buy cars, and only plan on spending money on gas, and insurance, and car payment, but budget absolutely zero money on maintenance, oil changes, fixing problems that happen on ANY car, no matter what etc. Every car ever made will have problems eventually, every car breaks down at some point. Every car has a warranty that will expire, and things will go wrong after it is expired, don't think it will happen, know it will happen. Hope for the best and expect the worst ... that's a good 'rule of thumb' when owning a car. Save yourself the hassle and just bring it in and get it checked out properly and fixed right the first time. If you cannot accurately and quickly diagnose something yourself, and get nowhere on these boards from people who had the exact same problem, just get it looked at and fixed properly. I'm not trying to be a d*** and no, I'm not working for a dealer etc, in fact I hate most dealers and garages lol ... but I know from my experience, and seeing people going through the same thing, if you can't do it yourself right away, don't know what you're really doing, get a professional to fix it for you. Easiest thing to do, and will save you from wasting your time on 'code readers' and buying parts that won't solve the problem, hours wasted trying to fix things yourself that in the end don't actually fix the first problem etc.

Good luck!
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You know what is funny, unless you have a good amount of knowledge about fixing cars, diagnosing cars, knowing what kinds of things cause these problems, save yourself a lot of wasted time and money and lots of frustration, and just bring it in to either a dealer, or a very well trusted independent mechanic, someone you trust or comes recommended by friends or family, and get it checked out properly and fixed properly. It blows my mind how many people buy cars, and only plan on spending money on gas, and insurance, and car payment, but budget absolutely zero money on maintenance, oil changes, fixing problems that happen on ANY car, no matter what etc. Every car ever made will have problems eventually, every car breaks down at some point. Every car has a warranty that will expire, and things will go wrong after it is expired, don't think it will happen, know it will happen. Hope for the best and expect the worst ... that's a good 'rule of thumb' when owning a car. Save yourself the hassle and just bring it in and get it checked out properly and fixed right the first time. If you cannot accurately and quickly diagnose something yourself, and get nowhere on these boards from people who had the exact same problem, just get it looked at and fixed properly. I'm not trying to be a d*** and no, I'm not working for a dealer etc, in fact I hate most dealers and garages lol ... but I know from my experience, and seeing people going through the same thing, if you can't do it yourself right away, don't know what you're really doing, get a professional to fix it for you. Easiest thing to do, and will save you from wasting your time on 'code readers' and buying parts that won't solve the problem, hours wasted trying to fix things yourself that in the end don't actually fix the first problem etc.

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Heaven forbid that we try to either A) save a lot of money and fix it ourselves or be armed with knowledge before we go to the dealer or mechanic.

And heaven forbid we talk about it on the Internet! These sorts of discussions have brought light to many common problems that dealerships previously swept under the rug.

Anyway...

I am interested to see what the problem turns out to be.

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Ok I went to oreilys and hooked up the obd2 scanner and no codes. Looked under the hood in the deep abyss around the brake booster and no vacuum leaks. I drove around all day didn't do it so I turned it off for about 30 mins and tried again and nothing. I did notice a diagnostic plug under the hood what can I do to try and retrieve codes from that. Could it just have been a batch if bad gas. Maybe the fuel filter sucked up something nasty to cause it? I'm stumped
The Diagnostic plug in the engine compartment is typically used by the dealers service people - if codes are present, they can be read by either port.

It could be a fouled Idle Speed Control valve (ISC / IAC), which most often can be taken off and cleaned with carb cleaner.

Does your car have an Exhaust gas Recirculation valve (EGR) ? - if so it could be stuck open causing rough idle.

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