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#1 (permalink) Old 06-29-2011, 02:35 PM
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Just wondering if anyone else is having paint issues. I bought a Black Rondo new, and I know Black is a hard color to maintain but this is more than that. First of all I am getting small chips all over in the paint. Secondly I can't use the foam brushes at the hand car washes because they leave terrible swirl marks on the paint. Thirdly I'm getting scratches all over the car, in fact just touching it lightly with your fingernail will leave a scratch. It seems that the paint is very thin.

It is very disappointing on a new car. I have a 2005 Ford Escape that I bought new in 04, and the paint is in better condition on it than my Rondo, that is only 7 months old.

I noticed some complaints on the Soul forum about paint, but haven't seen anything concerning Rondos.
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I will preface these remarks by stating I work in the paint industry. With that being said, you may be able to blame regulations for your paint issues. To put it bluntly: regulations have forced us to stop using the good stuff and use other stuff. Paint ain't what it used to be. 2004 paint is probably different from the stuff used now. It is what it is.

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Tubaryan12 is right, all paint has to be water based and any body shop will tell you its not as good as it used to be. Not sure when the change over took place.

Having said that, I've not encountered anything unusual with regards my paint on the Rondo.
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Mine has quite a few chips on the front. Doesn't seem like other cars I've owned have chipped as easily...
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I will preface these remarks by stating I work in the paint industry. With that being said, you may be able to blame regulations for your paint issues. To put it bluntly: regulations have forced us to stop using the good stuff and use other stuff. Paint ain't what it used to be. 2004 paint is probably different from the stuff used now. It is what it is.
You make an interesting point. It seems that any so-called 'green product' is never as effective. However I still think other manufacturer's paint jobs are standing up better than my Rondo.
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However I still think other manufacturer's paint jobs are standing up better than my Rondo.
I disagree.

I just talked to a friend about paint quality and he was complaining that his both Mazda and Toyota have very thin and very very soft paint.

Just like my Rondo...

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Same problem on my previous car, a Subaru Impreza 2008; actually much worse on that car than on my Rondo both at the same mileage.
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Can't commend on black cars. Don't buy them.

Have no problems at all with my Rondo's paint. No different from my 8 year old Honda. Have 3M applied to the front 12" of the hood. Never ever go through automatic car washes. Occasionally use self service in the winter, but spray only. Those brushes are killers. Good wax 2 or 3 times a year.

No complaints with the paint. Compared to the 'old' days (I've owned cars as old as the 50's), I think modern paint jobs are superior by far.
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And don't get me started on the buyers wanting the paint to be lower cost.

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Can't commend on black cars. Don't buy them.

Have no problems at all with my Rondo's paint. No different from my 8 year old Honda. Have 3M applied to the front 12" of the hood. Never ever go through automatic car washes. Occasionally use self service in the winter, but spray only. Those brushes are killers. Good wax 2 or 3 times a year.

No complaints with the paint. Compared to the 'old' days (I've owned cars as old as the 50's), I think modern paint jobs are superior by far.
I wasn't refering to to automatic car washes with brushes. I don't even think they exist around here anymore. Everything is touchless these days. I mean't the foam brushes at the hand wash places. Not sure how I'm going to keep my car the way I like it next winter. The touchless washes just don't clean that well.
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