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#1 (permalink) Old 09-11-2010, 03:54 PM
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Has anyone changed their fuel filter themselves? I'm wondering what kind of tool(s) you used to remove the fuel pump retainer ring. The one Kia uses looks homemade (SST# TKET125A). I've only ever used a large flat head screwdriver or chisel and a hammer, although it is not possible to properly torque (57.9 ~ 72.4 lbs-ft / 78.5 ~ 98.1 Nm) when turning the ring back on. Kia doesn't use a tab ring by the looks of it, they use a ring with holes in it on our 2007 Rondo. I wish my watch caseback opener was bigger
Any ideas? Make your own? Buy a universal tool from somewhere? Just hammer it off like the mechanics do
I guess I need to see what size the holes are first.

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the one we use at the dealership is not "homemade". it's a special tool made by Snap-on that has 4 rods that go into 4 of the holes in the ring and you use a 1/2" drive extension and ratchet to loosen and tighten it. i've had fellow techs use a screwdriver and hammer but it tears up the holes and the ring. personally i wouldn't bother changing the filter unless you're really having a fuel problem. a screen isn't going to clog up like a regular fuel filter would. we don't even have a fuel filter service at the dealership except on older kias that actually have a fuel filter. in my opinion it's a waste of time and money unless you are constantly dumping dirt in with your fuel.

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personally i wouldn't bother changing the filter unless you're really having a fuel problem. a screen isn't going to clog up like a regular fuel filter would. in my opinion it's a waste of time and money unless you are constantly dumping dirt in with your fuel.
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the one we use at the dealership is not "homemade". it's a special tool made by Snap-on that has 4 rods that go into 4 of the holes in the ring and you use a 1/2" drive extension and ratchet to loosen and tighten it. i've had fellow techs use a screwdriver and hammer but it tears up the holes and the ring. personally i wouldn't bother changing the filter unless you're really having a fuel problem. a screen isn't going to clog up like a regular fuel filter would. we don't even have a fuel filter service at the dealership except on older kias that actually have a fuel filter. in my opinion it's a waste of time and money unless you are constantly dumping dirt in with your fuel.
The fuel filter (pn 31910-2H000) I bought for my 2007 Rondo is a filter, not a screen. They must be changed every 56000 km or 28 months, whichever comes first, according to the maintenance schedule.

The SST# TKET125A looks like this
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yeah that's the tool but it's not homemade. kia uses 3 different fuel pump retaining ring tools, all made by snap-on.

if it's an actual filter then replace it, but the only filter i'm aware of is the screen on the fuel pump. canadian models are probably different.

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yeah that's the tool but it's not homemade. kia uses 3 different fuel pump retaining ring tools, all made by snap-on.

if it's an actual filter then replace it, but the only filter i'm aware of is the screen on the fuel pump. canadian models are probably different.
Why would the Canadian and US model have different fuel pump assemblies?

The filter actually makes up part of the body of the assembly, it's quite interesting. I've never seen a fuel filter this large on a car before. Maybe I'll document my procedure with pictures and end up posting it after I do the filter change. I've attached a few pictures, credit goes to Kia. You can see that the pump actually fits in the middle of the filter! Pictured is; the pump assembly, pump assembly with upper sending unit removed, and fuel filter. The fuel filter is the biggest part. The unfortunate thing with this configuration is that the whole assembly has to be unassembled in order to replace the filter. Maybe it just looks more intimidating than it is.

ps. I see a mesh screen is part of the assembly.
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I tackled this job today without any big issues. I feel the KGIS procedure and pictures for replacing the fuel pump takes care of most of the instructions to get you down to the filter, so I didn't bother taking pictures.

I find it difficult to understand why Kia makes replacing a filter so complicated. You have to basically tear down the entire pump assembly to get to the filter, every 56000km or 28 months! I bet there are a lot of Rondo's out there that are overdue for this filter change.

Anyway, I used a pair of bent long-nose pliers and a small sledge to "tap" the fuel pump retainer ring off with no damage.

There was, as with every other fuel filter I've ever changed, black fuel pouring out of the filter. Thankfully it did it's job and provided clean fuel to the system.

As a side note, I noticed the hesitation/bogging down condition seems to have been eliminated. This is what led me to believe the filter needed to be changed in the first place.

It took about an hour.

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I find it bizarre that KIA would put the fuel filter in the gas tank, other cars I've worked on has the filter in the engine compartment. You're basically entering the gas tank every 2 years (if you're following the recommendations).

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how far down the tank does the pump sit? does it almost have to at empty to minimize getting gas on your hands?

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Well, this thread settles it for me, I won't be changing that filter till I start noticing some reason to suspect it is plugged. I don't care what the schedule says. cjfin, It does sound like yours was plugging though.


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I find it bizarre that KIA would put the fuel filter in the gas tank, other cars I've worked on has the filter in the engine compartment. You're basically entering the gas tank every 2 years (if you're following the recommendations).

cfjin,

how far down the tank does the pump sit? does it almost have to at empty to minimize getting gas on your hands?
Hey there,

Yeah, weird isn't it? I've had filters in all sorts of places, but can't remember one ever being in the gas tank!

I talked with a Kia service department today about it. They do a lot of filter changes, 0.7 hr labor charge plus filter. And a lot of the blown pumps they see can be attributed to not having the filter changed according to the schedule, which voids the pump warranty. Even they admit it's kind of strange to have to do this much farting around just to change the filter every year. Although it took me about an hour and they do it in far less than that.

The pump assembly touches the bottom of the tank. Nitrile latex gloves are the way to go for gasoline protection. The pump assembly holds a bunch of gasoline inside it, so be careful not to tip it too much. I had to tip mine a bit in order to maneuver it out. I used some plastic to line the car inside and then layered rags around. I used a shoe box lined with plastic as a catch basin until I got the thing on the carport floor.

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