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Folks- The filter issue depends on what trans you have. My 2008 v-6 with the 5 speed does not have a pan that can be dropped. The only filter is inside, and you have to drop the trans and split the trans to get at it. A real poor design. Kia recommends only doing it if the trans is out for servicing. As far as the fluid changes- if you drain out 4 quarts, put 4 back in and drive for a few days, then repeat that twice more- you are not replacing all 12 quarts with fresh oil. The new oil mixes with the old, so you are "diluting" the fresh oil. The best way is to drain the old fluid through the plug. Pull the pan and replace the filter if you can. Put the plug back in and replace the oil with new. Then pull the cooling line that returns to the trans. (Not sure which one this is on the Rondo) Have someone start the car, and add fluid into the trans to replace what is getting pumped out of the line. Try not to let it run dry. When the fluid coming out gets suddenly clean, you have replaced almost all of the old fluid, without stressing the system. Reconnect the cooling line, top off the fluid, and you are done. BE CAREFUL- the fluid will come out fast, it can make a huge mess! Make sure your catch can is large enough.
Ummm, yeah. What you are describing is a transmission flush. Besides the fact that the Rondo's transmission capacity is closer to 8qts for the 4cyl/4spd auto and 10qts for the v6/5spd. It takes 10 min to pull the plug and swap out for a 50% new fluid mixture. Drive some more and let the fluid flow through the torque converter and mix with the old and repeat the process to have 75% new fluid. For the time, and considering most people aren't even going to change their fluid themselves, I'll do a drain-n-fill probably to 100k miles, then pull the pan off, flush the system, and put a new filter and gasket on.

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Yesterday I was ready to change my tranny fluid. I do not have the socket/wrench for the drain plug. I called the local parts stores, but none of them knows the plug's size.
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Yesterday I was ready to change my tranny fluid. I do not have the socket/wrench for the drain plug. I called the local parts stores, but none of them knows the plug's size.
I used a 24mm socket with a 25" breakover bar to get it loose. Worked great.
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I used a 24mm socket with a 25" breakover bar to get it loose. Worked great.
Thank-you for your quick reply.
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I used a 24mm socket with a 25" breakover bar to get it loose. Worked great.
ism't a 25" breaker bar a bit of overkill? A 10" ratchet handle and then bumping the handle with your fist should be more than enough to loosen the bolt.

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ism't a 25" breaker bar a bit of overkill? A 10" ratchet handle and then bumping the handle with your fist should be more than enough to loosen the bolt.
Eh, I like just putting the socket up there and using leverage instead of force ...also, I don't have a small 1/2" drive ratchet, lol...
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I'm new to the forum, so just now reading this.
My experience on this front was a nightmare..... but with a happy ending.
My V6 Rondo began making a loud whining noise from the left side of the car.
Dealership diagnosed bad transmission.
Car had 62k miles on it.
I had done total fluid exchange using SP111 compatible synthetic fluid (BG Fluid) at 52k.
They denied the warranty claim on the basis that I didn't use Kia fluid and I didn't change at 30k.
I argued that b/c of the Moss-Magnasun act they couldn't force me to use kia fluid and that the manual stated I had to 105k to change the fluid.
They basically said tough luck.
Thankfully, I have a friend who has pull at Kia and I was able to get the trans replaced under warranty.... and the gear whine is back after only 3k! See my post on this.
Lesson?
1. Kia assumes that no one will challenge them in court with the moss-mag act.
2. Every dealership I've spoken with states that Kia considers 'this area' a severe duty area. When asked where in the USA was not a 'severe duty area' the reply was 'we don't know, probably no where'.
3. Kia is sketchy about warranty repair, be careful. If I wouldn't have had a friend who could pull strings I would have been stuck with a costly repair.
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I've said this before but it bears repeating. Based on my experience, any major repairs from Kia - bring your attorney with you to the dealership. They will use any excuse to get out of a repair. It is almost like the Kia reps get a bonus for turning these down so the dealer can charge inflated prices for the work and you have no choice.

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I know I seem like a tool for asking this but how do you refill the transmission fluid on the 2.4. Dipstick?
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I know I seem like a tool for asking this but how do you refill the transmission fluid on the 2.4. Dipstick?
Yep, use a funnel and watch out for "burps".
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