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Very Very few car have a spin on trans filter.
Just all Subaru's. Must be very very few Subaru's out on the road. Oh, and some Mitsubishi's and Saturn's...

I've done my share of dropping the pan and changing the tranny filter. It's not hard, but given the choice, I'll go with a spin-on filter every time.

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Just all Subaru's. Must be very very few Subaru's out on the road. Oh, and some Mitsubishi's and Saturn's...

I've done my share of dropping the pan and changing the tranny filter. It's not hard, but given the choice, I'll go with a spin-on filter every time.
I agree with you 100%, spin on is the way to go. But as long as you do have a drain plug, the mess is not there to deal with. Which makes it easier. Being the pan is on the side of most Kia's makes it easier as well.
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Just did one of my cars a few weeks ago, a 2003 Dodge Neon. Had to drop the pan... and no drain plug! Fun times...
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Went and picked up 10 qts of Kia SPIII fluid at a local dealership. Parts guy gave me a deal for $8/qt (their cost is $6.39/qt, so, not too bad). Looks like I might try and drain 5 qts tonight, fill it back, drive some more, drain 5 qts, put 5 more back in. Fluid is looking pretty grey. I bought my Rondo with 32K on it, have 43K on it now, no idea if/when fluid has been changed, but this should help. I plan on doing a complete flush/filter change later on around 80K or 100K.
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Well, I was only able to dump 4 qts from the tranny through the drain plug. I'll drive it a week or so, then dump 4 more qts out and put 4 in. At least the fluid is somewhat red now, was a very dirty grey/brown.
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Tubaryan12, and others who did change oil
so I took my Rondo to the dealer. They examined fluids and said - tranny fluid is OK. No need to change.
I thought, I would do it myself anyway as I was planning to.

The question is: how much fluid did you use guys? And how did you perform the fluid change?

Tubaryan12, from your description looks like you simply drained old fluid and refilled. Did you really use 5 quarts only?

As I mentioned before - I came across a method to drain all fluid: let it warm up, put in N (shut off engine), disconnect a hose from transmission fluid cooler and put its end to a bucket, start the engine and let it run for no more than 60 seconds or until oil drains.

Anyone with any opinion? Could someone verify if this is a good way of doing it?
I can get a vacuum pump to suck the oil, too.

So, things I want to know - quantity of oil and way you changed it.
I just did a drain and fill. I believe it was less than 5 quarts. I'm just going to do that ever 25-30,000 miles or so. Paid about $7.50 per quart at the dealership. It seems to shift quieter for the first few days, then I believe your ears adjust and everything seems "normal" again.

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Yeah, shifts do seem a little smoother, don't think I feel them as much (not that it was "that" bad to start with, but... it is noticeable a little). Never thought the shifts were very loud before.
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Folks- The filter issue depends on what trans you have. My 2008 v-6 with the 5 speed does not have a pan that can be dropped. The only filter is inside, and you have to drop the trans and split the trans to get at it. A real poor design. Kia recommends only doing it if the trans is out for servicing. As far as the fluid changes- if you drain out 4 quarts, put 4 back in and drive for a few days, then repeat that twice more- you are not replacing all 12 quarts with fresh oil. The new oil mixes with the old, so you are "diluting" the fresh oil. The best way is to drain the old fluid through the plug. Pull the pan and replace the filter if you can. Put the plug back in and replace the oil with new. Then pull the cooling line that returns to the trans. (Not sure which one this is on the Rondo) Have someone start the car, and add fluid into the trans to replace what is getting pumped out of the line. Try not to let it run dry. When the fluid coming out gets suddenly clean, you have replaced almost all of the old fluid, without stressing the system. Reconnect the cooling line, top off the fluid, and you are done. BE CAREFUL- the fluid will come out fast, it can make a huge mess! Make sure your catch can is large enough.
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Folks- The filter issue depends on what trans you have. My 2008 v-6 with the 5 speed does not have a pan that can be dropped. The only filter is inside, and you have to drop the trans and split the trans to get at it. A real poor design. Kia recommends only doing it if the trans is out for servicing. As far as the fluid changes- if you drain out 4 quarts, put 4 back in and drive for a few days, then repeat that twice more- you are not replacing all 12 quarts with fresh oil. The new oil mixes with the old, so you are "diluting" the fresh oil. The best way is to drain the old fluid through the plug. Pull the pan and replace the filter if you can. Put the plug back in and replace the oil with new. Then pull the cooling line that returns to the trans. (Not sure which one this is on the Rondo) Have someone start the car, and add fluid into the trans to replace what is getting pumped out of the line. Try not to let it run dry. When the fluid coming out gets suddenly clean, you have replaced almost all of the old fluid, without stressing the system. Reconnect the cooling line, top off the fluid, and you are done. BE CAREFUL- the fluid will come out fast, it can make a huge mess! Make sure your catch can is large enough.
The trans pan on your 5spd is on the side of your trans.....thats where your filter is. You don't have to drop anything, but the pan to get to your trans filter.
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