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#11 (permalink) Old 01-11-2011, 11:54 AM
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I thought I would bump in here.

As 30k is getting closer I decided to call dealer to ask for 30k service cost. Well, they call for about 500 USD. Sounds a lot for me...
Anyway, they claim transmission oil must be changed, while my manual does NOT. It says to change it at 105k miles...

So - who is right?

I was going to change it anyway myself, so questions.

Tubaryan12,
did you change oil filter too? How was the whole process? did you get the tranny hot first? Or you did it on cold?
How much did you pay for oil?
Anything else, what you think may be important...
Mine cost $300.back in 09,My trans fluid WAS NOT replaced at that time.My dealer is going by the 105k.service schedule.
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Tubaryan12, and others who did change oil
so I took my Rondo to the dealer. They examined fluids and said - tranny fluid is OK. No need to change.
I thought, I would do it myself anyway as I was planning to.

The question is: how much fluid did you use guys? And how did you perform the fluid change?

Tubaryan12, from your description looks like you simply drained old fluid and refilled. Did you really use 5 quarts only?

As I mentioned before - I came across a method to drain all fluid: let it warm up, put in N (shut off engine), disconnect a hose from transmission fluid cooler and put its end to a bucket, start the engine and let it run for no more than 60 seconds or until oil drains.

Anyone with any opinion? Could someone verify if this is a good way of doing it?
I can get a vacuum pump to suck the oil, too.

So, things I want to know - quantity of oil and way you changed it.

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I changed mine 15k miles ago by pulling the plug, letting the oil drain till it stopped and refilled with same amount which was close at 5qts.

I drove the car for approx 50 miles and did it again and then did it one more time after that.

Seems this is how the dealer does it, because it is exactly what my youngest boy saw em do, except they didnt take it for a ride.

Seems doing it the way you mention is good, probably better, however I would be concerned about running the trans dry or anything else that might could happen while the engine is running.

I used a synthetic blend during my trans oil change. Will most likey do it again in 15k more miles. It will be interesting to see the magnetic drain plug then. It was scarry looking at 30k.

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PLP, I just drained mine at the drain plug also and refilled. I checked with my dealer beforehand, because I had seen the same procedure you had, and they told me all they do is drain it at the plug. Keep in mind that oil must be changed every 20k miles max here in Canada. I did mine at 14.5k miles and it was still nice and clean.


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I would change the fluid..even though the dealer said your ATF looked good (IE, nice clean and red). As far as severe service guidelines goes. Must of us do a LOT of short trips the weather (at least our MI weather) is very rough on our cars. If towing is involved, ATF replacment is a must every 30,000 miles.
I would just drop the drain plug, clean the plug and refill it. Yes 5 quarts should do the trick. Then like allready menchend, do it again a few days later. Your trans holds about 12 quarts. Doing this twice will just about change all of your ATF.
SP 111 is the correct ATF to use. Also called cam3. I've got in bulk, if you can bring a couple of jugs to me I can fill them cheap for you.
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If you can, AMSOIL tranny fluid is a good replacement if you want to flush all the old crap and put nice new fluid in. Thinking about using it on my Rondo. It is suited for Diamond SPIII (Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi).
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I never believe a fluid service that recommends waiting that long on an automatic. It costs less than $50 every other year for peace of mind. I will do 3 half fluid changes before I reach 100k miles. There is no user serviceable filter for this transmission. That's just one more reason why I try to change it at 30K. Last month, I did my wife's Optima transmission fluid for the second time. The magnetic plug was covered, once again, like the pictures above. One less thing to worry about.

At the rate of $195 per flush, I could afford to do $50 half changes every year and still be better off.
There IS a serviceable filter in your trans it's $46.00 OEM Kia part# is 46321-39010.
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There IS a serviceable filter in your trans it's $46.00 OEM Kia part# is 46321-39010.
There is a difference between a serviceable filter and an EASILY serviceable filter. Take, for instance, a 2007 Subaru Legacy 2.5i. There is a spin-on transmission filter, just like an oil filter. Now compare replacing the filter in many other vehicles, which involves dropping the pan, putting in a new filter and replacing the gasket.
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Strange, I just happened to be checking my fluids today and was thinking about changing my ATF. I doubt its been done yet. Mine is a 2005 Carens II. its at 30k now so averaged out at 6k/year. Our weather is supposed to be fairly settled this week and this afternoon was unseasonably warm. I noticed my ATF level was on the low side so will try and drain and refill later in the week. I have the 4 speed box. Is there a filter in that one? I've heard talk of this filter before and read mixed reports.
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There is a difference between a serviceable filter and an EASILY serviceable filter. Take, for instance, a 2007 Subaru Legacy 2.5i. There is a spin-on transmission filter, just like an oil filter. Now compare replacing the filter in many other vehicles, which involves dropping the pan, putting in a new filter and replacing the gasket.
Very Very few car have a spin on trans filter. After you remove the drain plug the pan is easy to remove..the filter just lifts out, and put some RTV (the only type of sealent that should be used never a gasket) then reinstall the pan. Nothing hard about it. To say the filter is not serviceable is wrong. And is misleading to people.
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