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#1 (permalink) Old 06-29-2009, 01:26 PM
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Ok well today as I was going to work I did something stupid I Pulled out in a hurry in front of someone and floored it thinking I could make it well I did, but the front tires started to spin as I punched it then the throttle kinda went out or sputtered as I suddenly lost power. It was wierd and at the same time my dashboard light ESC started flashing...was this my stability control kicking in if so it made situations worse as the guy behind me had to race around me anyone else have this happen.
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Yeah, that was definitely your stability/traction control kicking in. If you lived further up north, you would probably be used to it by now (that is, spinning your tires on snow/ice and having that uncanny experience of losing power).
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My previous Saturn has traction control. When I was in Texas, it blinked only once or twice in 3 years when it hit a puddle of water. While after I moved to Michigan, it blinked several times a day in winter when there was snow/ice on the ground. That is one of the reason I choose Rondo over Mazda5.
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Oh yes, ESC. It is nice, but I have when it takes power out.
Most of the time grip is so good (summer) that it will not cut horses down, but last week it did. The gap between loss of power and time when it came back was too long.
winter - most of the time I have it off.

When I am planning to floor my rondo, I turn off ESC. Then wheels can spin as much as they want to ha ha

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That's right. You need to turn off the ESC when you need to spin the wheels in snow/ice. I think if you have a set of winter tires, the ESC may be triggered less often.
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That's right. You need to turn off the ESC when you need to spin the wheels in snow/ice. I think if you have a set of winter tires, the ESC may be triggered less often.
And when you want to have some fun, like 180 or even 360 turns I did not make any more than 360 yet
and maybe to burn some rubber

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winter most of the time you have it off???

Gutsy. I agree it can be a little aggressive. but remember, when you disable it you are not just disabling traction control, you are also disabling the stability control which could save your life in winter conditions.

if stuck in snow, you will have to turn if off to rock out or sometimes to move at all, but after that I turn it back on. I don't mind the electronic nanny watching over me.

the stability control is also very good. I was doing figure eights on an empty snow covered parking lot just after i got the car, and with my foot on the floor in second gear, I could carve perfect figure eights without losing control, brakes definitely pulsing, ESC light flashing away all the time. I was quite impressed how well it controlled the car despite my obvious attempts to get it out of shape.
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winter most of the time you have it off???

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I could carve perfect figure eights without losing control, brakes definitely pulsing, ESC light flashing away all the time. I was quite impressed how well it controlled the car despite my obvious attempts to get it out of shape.
No, not all the time, but when we get plenty of snow, and starting become hard, I turn it off. Then, after take off from lights, turn it back on. And yes, I know what you mean. Read more.
BTW, stock 225/50x17 Michelin tires on winter are very poor. They have good side (turn) grip, but traction is bad. Wet and dry - perfect.

I did a test though.
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I took the car, turned off ESC and drove around 35-40 MPH on empty wide road. Started making turns, sharp left - right, like you would do when avoiding something on the road. Car would eventually start sliding and going on one side. Simply sliding, or in other words, the back of the car would try to pass front - if you know what I mean.

Then, after that I knew how it acts. Around three sharp turns and it would do 180 or more.
So, I do the same, but after 3rd turn, when it feels almost like loosing control, I press ESC on. One more turn, not even full, and car is under control.

Then, one more time, I try to do the same thing with ESC on. Nope, not even a small slide. I tried that up to 60 MPH and always it went like you wanted.


The bottom line.
This ESC will save your "bottom".

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I guess I could see how this would be great it snow but us California people don't see the ice much....
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Agree. It works very well. A couple of occasions when I was horsing around in the snow trying to invoke some oversteer, anytime I managed to do so, before I could correct the impending skid, the ESC jumped in and corrected it for me. I was really impressed at how fast it detects the oversteer and takes action.

amazing technology really. no doubt it will save lives when Joe Average No Nothing Driver inadvertantly gets in over is head. I agree however that the traction control can be a little aggressive, but you can probably blame that on the liability lawyers more than anything else.

My only complaint is it can cut engine power just when you might need it, like pulling out quickly into a, perhaps, tight spot. Having the engine suddenly die on you can be a little disconcerting to say the least. it happened to me once and after that I am a little more careful about how hard I press the loud pedal in that circumstance. Even the 175 hp I4 can light the tires up on dry pavement if you really try, certainly enough to turn on that little ESC light.

and again I agree, the stock tires (I have the 16" korean tires) are pathetic in snow. Snow tires are not just recommended, they should be mandatory. Makes a huge difference in winter conditions. Quick frankly, the car is dangerous in snow with the stock summer tires

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