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Old 05-05-2008, 06:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Air Con not working from factory

I bought my Rondo in Oct of 07 and up until now it's had no issues. My wife as of late has been complaining that as it's getting warmer outside the a/c isn't blowing very cold. Me being the guy I am thinks that she just doesn't know how to use the auto climate control, so I leave it. Today I finally tried it and it doesn't work, the a/c compressor does not kick in no matter what I try. I'm making an appt to get this checked out now. Kinda ridiculous that on a car that only has 10k on it, it has a major fault like this.
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm making an appt to get this checked out now. Kinda ridiculous that on a car that only has 10k on it, it has a major fault like this.
You don't know its a major fault yet, till it gets checked over, might be something basic. But give us your feedback on what they say.

Its always a good idea to run the a/c once a month during the winter months - it does recommend that in the manual page 4/68
"use the air conditioning system every month only for a few minutes to ensure maximum system performance"

I can't say I remember to do it every month but I have done it few times during the winter. It seems to be working fine, but so far I haven't had the need to use on a daily basis, the weather is just not warm enough.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"use the air conditioning system every month only for a few minutes to ensure maximum system performance"
I am surprised it says this because the A/C is on, on a limited basis, when the dial is on a defrost setting, even with the heat on.

Good idea regardless.
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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my a/c turned on numerous times during the winter months, or at least the a/c light in the button illuminated. So I don't think that was the issue, i'm pretty sure it's either the clutch on the a/c compressor or a sensor somewhere telling the a/c not to turn on. I checked both the under dash fuse and under hood fuse and both were fine.

Also I did a search on here and there is another person with a Carens that had the exact same problem.
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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my a/c turned on numerous times during the winter months, or at least the a/c light in the button illuminated. So I don't think that was the issue, i'm pretty sure it's either the clutch on the a/c compressor or a sensor somewhere telling the a/c not to turn on. I checked both the under dash fuse and under hood fuse and both were fine.

Also I did a search on here and there is another person with a Carens that had the exact same problem.
Yes, I think I read about another A/C problems on either a Rondo or Carens here and it was, I think, a clutch problem.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Also consider having them check the Freon level

Could also be related to lack of refrigerant, if it was not filled correctly, or if it leaked our somehow and you lost refrigerant it wont work either. Just something to keep in mind when they are checking it out, maybe ask them to confirm it does not require a top up.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I doubt that it's low on freon, I lightly tapped the valve and there was still definite pressure in it. I would really be surprise if the a/c system leaked on a vehicle this new, they're pretty fussy about these systems. I am quite sure it's the a/c clutch, we'll find out on Monday, it goes in for service then. I just really hope they won't have to order parts and then make me come in again. I live 150km away from the nearest dealer so for me to come in is a significant cost in fuel as well as taking time off work.
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So I brought it in yesterday, and the problem is that one of the Schroeder valves on the A/C lines was leaking so I didn't have enough pressure in the system. For some reason Kia made them un-serviceable so they ordered a new a/c suction line in and said it would take 2-3 weeks to come in. I told them that was ridiculous and that I needed it a lot sooner than that. So now they're saying 1 1/2 weeks roughly, but we'll see how that works out with our baby being due mid next week. I really hope that this fixes it, but I have a suspicion that it won't and it'll still be the clutch on the a/c compressor.

on a positive note I got the windows tinted and it looks really sharp on my black Rondo.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Default Funny that is Rondo A/C thread is active....

I was over at my dealer today checking out Optimas after normal hours, and I saw the strangest sight over near the dealership's repair area door.

It looks like someone left their silver Rondo parked near the entrance with this message scrawled in what looked like orange liquid shoe polish on the driver's window: "A/C is broken. Fix it shop!"

That message in and of itself wouldn't be that surprising to see, and if the owner was frustrated, the shoe polish trick wouldn't even be that weird.

What WAS weird was that every square inch of the interior surface of every window in the thing was covered with a very thick layer of water condensation! You could barely see in the car when you put your face to the glass. The driver's seat had some kind of towel or temporary cover on it.

Temps were around 60 degrees here in Michigan today, and it was sunny. So the condensation thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

How could a broken A/C unit cause this amount of condensation? I'm wondering if there isn't trapped moisture from a leak of some sort in the floorboards or carpet, and the sun today caused it to evaporate. It was still pretty warm when I was there, so that doesn't explain the nasty interior condensation.

The fact that the there weren't any "wipe marks" on the inside of the windshield or drivers door tells me that the car had NOT just been parked -- the driver would not have been able to see where he/she was going!

So for all you super sleuths out there.... using the message written on the vehicle as a clue..... what the devil do you think was going on here?

I feel bad for the owner, since the vehicle appeared fairly new. That interior will HAVE to have some smell or mold issues later based on what I observed.

More fuel for a possible Rondo systemic A/C problem being identified on here....

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I was over at my dealer today checking out Optimas after normal hours, and I saw the strangest sight over near the dealership's repair area door.

It looks like someone left their silver Rondo parked near the entrance with this message scrawled in what looked like orange liquid shoe polish on the driver's window: "A/C is broken. Fix it shop!"

That message in and of itself wouldn't be that surprising to see, and if the owner was frustrated, the shoe polish trick wouldn't even be that weird.

What WAS weird was that every square inch of the interior surface of every window in the thing was covered with a very thick layer of water condensation! You could barely see in the car when you put your face to the glass. The driver's seat had some kind of towel or temporary cover on it.

Temps were around 60 degrees here in Michigan today, and it was sunny. So the condensation thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

How could a broken A/C unit cause this amount of condensation? I'm wondering if there isn't trapped moisture from a leak of some sort in the floorboards or carpet, and the sun today caused it to evaporate. It was still pretty warm when I was there, so that doesn't explain the nasty interior condensation.

The fact that the there weren't any "wipe marks" on the inside of the windshield or drivers door tells me that the car had NOT just been parked -- the driver would not have been able to see where he/she was going!

So for all you super sleuths out there.... using the message written on the vehicle as a clue..... what the devil do you think was going on here?

I feel bad for the owner, since the vehicle appeared fairly new. That interior will HAVE to have some smell or mold issues later based on what I observed.

More fuel for a possible Rondo systemic A/C problem being identified on here....

-SM

Weird indeed. A few years back my car (Daihatsu) was serviced and when it came back
I had some pretty serious steaming-up issues that puzzled me until I saw that the garage had selected re-circ on the air...it cleared within seconds of going back to normal fresh air intake. Probably not the cause of this problem though.
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