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Old 03-12-2008, 06:51 PM   #171 (permalink)
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You are right - it's where they get all the bad weather (high winds, floods etc). One day I dream of walking in to my garage and finding the exact tool I know that I own without a landslide of specially saved timber landing on me first. Can't resist a bit of knotty pine.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:17 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Motor Trend Magazine has added the 2007 Rondo EX to it's fleet of long term test cars, so each month they're be a small write-up of how it stands up to the numerous drivers of the magazine's staff. Read the first article here:
2007 Kia Rondo EX - Long Term Test - Motor Trend
They've posted an update. Fairly short, so I might as well post it here:

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Mark Williams took the Rondo on a roundtrip run from Los Angeles to San Francisco to "load up a soon-to-be college grad with all her clean clothes (stored in a 33-gallon garbage bag), a newly built book shelf, athletic gear, a full backpack, stereo equipment, and two suitcases."

Essentially a mini minivan, the Rondo allowed Williams and his crew to utilize "every inch of the flat rear cargo area with all four seats in back folded flat, while still giving us plenty of good visibility out all the rear windows."

Although it's adept at hauling a variety of gear, the Kia is less proficient at transporting a full load of adults: "We drove over to a restaurant with seven passengers, and the engine and suspension felt tapped out-it's clearly not made for adult passengers all of the time."

Months 3
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:52 PM   #173 (permalink)
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England? Where is that? Garages are not for cars!
Ahh, those differences in the way we speak. This is extremely off-topic, but I find this interesting, nevertheless.

As far as I understand it, for a multilevel parking structure:
car park (UK) = parkade (Canada) = parking garage (US)

For a ground-level parking area:
parking lot (Canada, US)
Not sure what it's called in the UK

As a confused Canadian, I'm not sure what to call a below-ground parking area. I usually just say "underground parking lot."

As for "garage," in Canada (I'm sure this also applies to the States), that's the structure next to or attached to your house in which you park your car. "Garage" also refers to any building in which vehicles are serviced.

Ok, I'm sure there are some variations and exceptions to all of this, or perhaps I just have it all wrong, so you guys (blokes) can chime in if you want to.
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:08 AM   #174 (permalink)
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Well....almost Kia is listed under every category of Compact, Intermediate, Subcompact, Minivan and Mid-Size SUV
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Old 03-13-2008, 04:07 AM   #175 (permalink)
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Ahh, those differences in the way we speak. This is extremely off-topic, but I find this interesting, nevertheless.

As far as I understand it, for a multilevel parking structure:
car park (UK) = parkade (Canada) = parking garage (US)

For a ground-level parking area:
parking lot (Canada, US)
Not sure what it's called in the UK

As a confused Canadian, I'm not sure what to call a below-ground parking area. I usually just say "underground parking lot."

As for "garage," in Canada (I'm sure this also applies to the States), that's the structure next to or attached to your house in which you park your car. "Garage" also refers to any building in which vehicles are serviced.

Ok, I'm sure there are some variations and exceptions to all of this, or perhaps I just have it all wrong, so you guys (blokes) can chime in if you want to.
A touch of 2 (or more) nations separated by a common language. 'Garage' is indeed the normal UK name for the structure next or attached to your house designed for your car. The joke in the UK is that hardly anyone can get their car in to their garage because it houses all their junk (or in my case, valuable off cuts of timber and assorted tools). A garage also refers to a place where you take your car to be serviced (not a 'shop' although we all understand 'workshop', it's not a common term in the UK). The place where you go to buy a car (often attached to a garage) is generally called a 'showroom' or a 'car showroom'.

Public parking spaces tend to be 'carpark' equivalent to parking lot. For a multi-level car park we normally say 'multi-storey'. If it is below ground level we generally say 'underground' car park (I think). Not that different really but where does 'lot' come from? We park our cars in a car park - do you lot your cars in a car lot?
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:33 AM   #176 (permalink)
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Thanks for clarifying the Brit speak, Blow-in. Canucks, Yanks and Brits seem to have the same understanding of what a "garage" and "showroom" is, although the Yanks seem to be unique in using "parking garage." I'm sure some Canadians also say "parking garage," but I don't know many who do. Filling your own garage with junk (oops, I mean family mementos) must be a universal trait shared by all.

As for the Canadian and American use of "lot," that's just referring to the piece of land, so "parking lot" means a parcel of land that is reserved for parking our vehicles. A "car lot" is usually referring to a parcel of land owned by a dealership, where the dealership stores and showcases its vehicles for sale.

Edit: Oh, you probably knew what "lot" was referring to, but were just making a joke about "lot your cars in a car lot." Yeah, I'm not the quickest wit around.

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"Although it's adept at hauling a variety of gear, the Kia is less proficient at transporting a full load of adults: "We drove over to a restaurant with seven passengers, and the engine and suspension felt tapped out-it's clearly not made for adult passengers all of the time."

Is this a V6 or I4 ?
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:18 AM   #178 (permalink)
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I found the original article on MT's website.

2007 Kia Rondo EX - Long Term Test - Motor Trend

It's the 2.7L six.

Keep in mind that these magazine types jump from one vehicle to another almost constantly. If the vehicle they last drove was a Hemi Charger, then the Rondo full loaded is going to feel underpowered.

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Old 03-14-2008, 01:30 AM   #179 (permalink)
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you wouldn't happen to have a photo of what you are talking about, I can't check mine very well as we have had so much snow here in the last 24-36 hours to last me a lifetime, the worse winter conditions I've experience since moving to the county 15 years ago - anybody want some! - only 3 easy payments of $19.99 plus shipping
With apologies for the delay, here is a photo. I was hoping I could avoid showing my car just when I have not washed it for several months, but could not do so without making you wait even longer.

This is the back of the front wheel well; there is a gap on each side. And none on the back at this spot, but other openings around the wheel. As I have never examined my other cars this closely I can't say if any of this is normal.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:03 PM   #180 (permalink)
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Bought mine last week in Gettysburg, Pa - 5000 in rebates plus 4000 over Kelley Blue Book for my trade (2004 Dodge Neon SXT with 29000 - 5700 Kelly - dealership gave me 9700 on my trade) How could I say no. It will be my wife's daily driver - I Drive a 2007 4Runner and I love it but I really like driving the Rondo - it's why it was so easy to say yes. All negotiation done on the internet. We just showed up and picked our color (urban gray) and the deal was done!! I am glad the reviews are good. My biggest concerns are the seats (people say they spot from water) and some people complaining about their dealership not wanting to do warranty work - some justified some not. I am so glad I found this forum - I belong to one for the 4runner and it has been extremely helpful on a variety of issues.

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