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Old 01-03-2007, 09:31 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I had a 2005 Amanti that had the lag/lurch problem. After having it serviced numerous times, contacting Kia directly and talking with our service manager, we finally sought legal help and Kia bought the vehicle back.
Ugly to admit, but we took the money and purchased a 2006 Amanti since we didn't feel that we could have the same luck twice.
Unfortunately, it also has a lag/lurch problem along with an acceleration problem where it jumps at a slight touch of the throttle and when you slam on the brakes and try again, it again jumps forward. I had it in a parking lot one time and it jumped three different times before i stopped the car, put it in park and turned off the ignition. When I restarted the car, it had no problem. Our 2006 has been in the shop three times for various lengths of time. They again say they can't find a problem with it. Don't give up the fight if you feel the vehicle is dangerous. That's what I feel and I'm certainly not going to quit trying to get it repaired or replaced.

Isn't it a shame that such a nice looking, well appointed vehicle has a problem of this nature?
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:04 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Hello, I have a 2006 Amanti (8000 miles currently) that I have had problems with since the first few weeks. After a short trip, turn the car off, back on, back out and coast to a exit point, push the accellerator to the floor and all you get is about 10 miles an hour. The engine revs, rpm's go up but you don't go anywhere, quit accelleration possibly pump accellerator before the car responds, at that point it lurches forward. I have had the car in the shop four times (several days at a time) in the past 4 months (only had it four months) and they have offered no solutions and ignore the possibility that anyone else is having this problem. This occurs about once a week or 300 miles. Has anyone recieved any help? My car has also lurched as noted in others comments. Has anyone considered using the lemon law process? I am concerned for my safety, I have to stop at a stop sign, then cross on coming traffic at 55 mph. When it doesn't go, what are you suppose to do, say excuse me?
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Yes, KIA seems to be in a quiet state of either confusion on the issue, or denial. It is amazing that they have had no recalls on the vehicles. According to one KIA mechanic, the new throttle system was added in 2005 vehicles. That appears to be when the problems started, which are continuing. I have just notified my local dealership that I plan on requesting a replacement vehicle, under the California Lemon Law, which the car now qualifies for. I have qualified for days in the shop, and the fact that have multiples of shop visits and consultations, the sudden acceleration problem still exists. KIA's statements seem to be the generic 'we can't reproduce the problem' when the vehicle goes to the shop. It seems that the majority of people experiencing the problems get the same story. A question might have to be asked at a point is that the answer might be now, but KIA does not want to acknowledge it officially. I have two weeks left for someone to get off their buns and resolve the issue, before I get an attorney invovled, using the California law. You are right in that it IS a safety issue. I have pointed out from the beginning that should the issue happen at the wrong moment, an accident could easily occur. I would fault KIA directly at that point and take any necessary action.
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:12 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I had a 2005 Amanti that had the lag/lurch problem. After having it serviced numerous times, contacting Kia directly and talking with our service manager, we finally sought legal help and Kia bought the vehicle back.
Ugly to admit, but we took the money and purchased a 2006 Amanti since we didn't feel that we could have the same luck twice.
Unfortunately, it also has a lag/lurch problem along with an acceleration problem where it jumps at a slight touch of the throttle and when you slam on the brakes and try again, it again jumps forward. I had it in a parking lot one time and it jumped three different times before i stopped the car, put it in park and turned off the ignition. When I restarted the car, it had no problem. Our 2006 has been in the shop three times for various lengths of time. They again say they can't find a problem with it. Don't give up the fight if you feel the vehicle is dangerous. That's what I feel and I'm certainly not going to quit trying to get it repaired or replaced.

Isn't it a shame that such a nice looking, well appointed vehicle has a problem of this nature?

Yes, I totally agree. I love the car in general, and enjoy driving it, with the exception of the problem that it has, and never knowing when that will surface. I also cannot understand KIA's stance in that it would not want to preserve the reputation of this vehicle by efficiently and quickly handling problems. It should not have to get to the point where attorneys or ugliness gets involved. They have a great vehicle, which has an issue that needs to get resolved, for the sake of all parties. The Amanti could then take its' place as a great vehicle, rather than s 'suspect' vehicle. Anyone heard of class action!
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:14 PM   #34 (permalink)
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We also have a 2005 with the same problem. Have taken it to the dealer with the same response that ya'll have gotten. "Can not pull any codes, can not find anything wrong but if you want to leave it we will try to duplicate the problem and no we have not heard of other people having this problem" We have had our 2005 for a year now and it has done it at least six times over the last year. I told the dealership to be sure and make a record of me bringing it in noting the problem as KIA is either going to make me or my wife a very rich person. I called KIA Corporate and was given an incedent number. For all of ya'll having the problem be sure and go to FEDS and log a complaint at the following website:

ODI - Office of Defects Investigation

We might get something done if enough complain. I see where VOLVO is having a simliar problem and the FEDS made them do a recall:

Volvo recalls 360,000 cars for speed control bug

Who knows systems may be similar.
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:35 PM   #35 (permalink)
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By the way there are some similar posts going on at Edmunds.com:

Kia Amanti - CarSpace Automotive Forums
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:30 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Thanks, I had not seen those postings. I currently have a 'book' going, documenting the KIA problems. This collection of problems is now 45 pages long. If anyone wants a copy, just email me and I will send it to you. It makes things interesting for any dealer, who claims to have never heard of the issues.
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:10 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Have had two occurrences of long hesitations when pedal was pushed. Up to 1-2 second delay. Thought engine had died, but following hesitation, engine accelerated like I had punched the pedal. Have not experienced problem in several weeks. Haven't pursued with dealer.
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:57 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Hello
Just FYI I have started the lemon law process .I will update if any helpfull information is received. My car does the lag-lurch every 6 to 7 days.
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:38 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Just FYI I have started the lemon law process .I will update if any helpfull information is received. My car does the lag-lurch every 6 to 7 days.

Good luck to you. One caveat to check into. Does your state require them to replace the car, or just compensate you? The reason that I asked is that when speaking with another owner, with some of the problems, their state does not require that the car be replaced. You jlust get compensated. They can declare the car a lemon, and compensate you. The hitch comes when you go to trade/sell the car. Apparently they attach the 'lemon' to the vehicle in the license database. It then makes it hard to sell/trade, if you have to tell folks that you vehicle has been declared a lemon. In California, you have a choice of requesting a replacement vehicle, or get compensated. It would not be smart to get compensated and end up with a vehicle that was declared a lemon, that no one would want in the future.

It would seem that a lemon law that does not require replacement puts the owner between the rock and hard place, as if you fight and win, just getting compensated, with your car declared on the books as a lemon, do you lose or gain? You would have to get compensated well.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:07 PM   #40 (permalink)
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My Amanti has a lag/lurch problem which acted up four times last week, once already this week. I called the authorized service center and they don't have a mechanic available that can work on it. The nearest other authorized service center is 100 miles away. Before talking to an attorney, does anyone have any suggestions on a solution. Don't say contact KIA, they haven't responded to a letter sent - nor to the service manager calling. This car has less than 4000 miles and has been in the shop several times already for these problems. Is there a mech that has a handle on a fix??? Thanks
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