Take a look at this PDF. I really see no reason to take chances on a aftermarket oil filter.
Unless this is a recent development, Kia/Hyundai OEM filters have always been manufactured by a Korean subsidiary of MANN+HUMMEL. There was a period of time when some U.S. manufactured cars came from the factory with a Mahle made filter (stamped made in Austria), but dealer replacement OEM filters have always been from Korea. The one time I used a Wix filter I was not impressed. Very uneven pleating, globs of excess glue around the end plates. It did it's job but was more expensive than what I was paying for OEM at the local dealership and far more than I now pay mail order. Also, the Wix kit doesn't come with the crush washer that is provided in the -3C100 kit.WIX is the manufacturer of the OEM filter.
They can't tell you how much you have to pay for a filter, so long as it meets specs (which even super tech does LOL) you can use it whether it cost 1 dollar or a 100.They can tell you that you must use a filter of equal value, but again, there is no standard.
I'll sell you Kia filters cheap, $4.95 each. Buy as little or as many as you like. No tax, you are out of state. Shipping will be $5.00, right to your door. That is if you want to use Factory oil filters. Your car, your choice.I would go OEM all day, though like I said, 12.xx for the filter at my dealer + 7.xx to ship, or a 2 hr round trip, (you know thats more than 8 bucks in gas) is crazy. Its just not cost, time, ect, worth it. I drive 3000K every week or 2nd week. Can I go to the dealer 2 hrs away every 1-2 weeks, hell no..... If I ordered it and had it shipped, I would have to buy one, do oil change and turn around and order another one so I know it would be here in that 1-2 weeks I would need it in.
You all do know there are different aftermarket filter makers. I have noticed some are smaller than others, (the ones to stay away from) (fram, super tech, ect) may see an issue. Like above, the wix is the same size, makes Kias, why not there?
Never had an oil light come on due to a filter, maybe you screwed it on to tight and resticted flow, happens too.....
Not that I am bagging on OEM, its just TIME, COST, just to get one. No one said anything about the OEM quality.
They can't tell you how much you have to pay for a filter, so long as it meets specs (which even super tech does LOL) you can use it whether it cost 1 dollar or a 100.
Do you have any references to support your suggestions that South Korea produce cheap knock-off stuff like China ? (LG, Samsung, ?)The country they are made in DOES make a difference when the manufacturing standards for that country are much lower...Korea and China produce some of the most cheaply made original and knock-off stuff out there whether cars or stereos. The manufacturing standard for Japanese and US produced cars and filtering standard for most 'aftermarket' US/Jap/German filters is so much higher than those required in Korea and China that it is a joke for anyone to indicate that the factory standards for OEM KIA filters are high....It is entirely ludicrous to think that this thread is even being taken seriously by anyone with any engineering or mechanical experience.
I'm not up to speed on the technical specification of the filters in question, but if Kia fit them in the service centers, then wouldn't they need that same level of confidence that their filter poses no risk to the life span of the engine and the warranty that they carry on the vehicle and the service work carried out?There is obviously an issue with more free flowing filters allowing pressure drops in certain areas of the KIA engines and rather than actually put the time and effort in to engineer the engines so as to fix the problem, the band-aid is to put out a statement recommending the more restrictive OEM filter to keep pressure at a given level to prevent noises...again, quality standards or replace engineering and problem resolution with a restrictive filter to hide the issue??? Sounds like jack-leg standards to me...seen same type of "repairs" by shade tree mechanics for years....the other solution is to use a qualtiy filter and 50wt oil....shade tree fix for engine noises for decades.
Wouldn't best business practice ensure that the filter manufacturer maintain the highest standards when filling their contact orders with large vehicle manufacturers not to jeopardize business with what's most likely their largest customer?I must agree that WIX and Purolator do make some pretty decent filters. That being said, when they rebrand to KIA OEM or whatever, they do not manufacture them to the same quality standard as the Puralator or WIX labelled brand, so just because company X makes filters for car company Y does not mean they are made to the same standard....and you can be assured that company X does not make a better quality filter for a subcontractor than it does for it's own namesake. Something to dwell on...
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Right on, that is bullshit, I think this is the only time, I have ever heard a manufacturer say this. Had many cars in my time so far, not once had a service department ever have an issue with me using a aftermarket filter.There is obviously an issue with more free flowing filters allowing pressure drops in certain areas of the KIA engines and rather than actually put the time and effort in to engineer the engines so as to fix the problem, the band-aid is to put out a statement recommending the more restrictive OEM filter to keep pressure at a given level to prevent noises...
There is obviously an issue with more free flowing filters allowing pressure drops in certain areas of the KIA engines and rather than actually put the time and effort in to engineer the engines so as to fix the problem, the band-aid is to put out a statement recommending the more restrictive OEM filter to keep pressure at a given level to prevent noises
LG, let me see, I bought a LG blueray player in march, guess what, it doesn't read discs anymore.Do you have any references to support your suggestions that South Korea produce cheap knock-off stuff like China ? (LG, Samsung, ?)
I will start here, how come as a consumer, I was not told this from the beginning, I would like to see this publication, BUT, if it changed how come we as the customer, have NOT been notified, officially by Kia of these changes?I show them the publication and help them understand exactly what I think is happening.