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Default best wash/wax product to keep my optima looking new?

Any advice on what to get besides the regular stuff you find at walmart?
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Well I've put myself out of that market for many years now, but about 6 or 7 years ago, many folks were into Zaino products. I bought into it and did my Firebird with the layering about 6 years ago now, and must say the sucker still shines up good, but finally need another dose, I'm so lazy . Granted the car is garage kept and has seen less than 10k miles, but the stuff does last, and shines nicely. Wonder if the products in my garage are still good after sitting so long and in temperature extremes. Anyway, looks like they are still in business

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I use Eagle One Nanowax and for the tires Meguiar's Endurance tire gel.
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What is wax? I haven't waxed a car in years! I know, I'm bad.
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I swear by Klasse products for sealant. Love Poor Boys soaps.
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try here...
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If you're really interested in keeping a car looking new, invest in a good-quality random-orbital buffer. The Porter-Cable 7424 is an excellent choice. Stay away from those cheapie things on Ebay that look like a big wood sander. IMO, you'll end up doing more marm than good with one of those. Having a good random orbital around will help keep the fine scratches / swirls at bay and truly keep your paint flawless.

The pads I use on my buffer come from Lake Country (sourced from Autogeek.net). I keep a variety of pads on hand so I can take care of whatever needs attention.

For the level of scratching / hazing I've had on my cars (caused by previous owners or car dealerships washing and drying with the wrong materials), I've never had to use anything harsher than a fine swirl remover. It's always better to start with something light and work your way up. Starting with a harsher polish than you need is a waste of clearcoat. I use Pinnacle polishes.

After you've returned your paint to a flawless shine, it's then time to protect it. I've used just about every brand of wax on the planet, and to be honest....they all produce nearly the same visual result. The key is to find the one that lasts the longest. Synthetic waxes / sealers are typically the best at resisting being stripped, as they're not as easily washed away by detergents and the chemicals that exist in street water.

What I don't have any use for are the harsh 'cleaner waxes' on the market that are designed to help you save time. If you've already gone through the trouble of using an orbital buffer on your paint, there is NO reason to use a wax / sealer that's full of cleaners, abrasives and solvents. You've already cleaned your paint with products that were spefically designed to clean it....don't clean it again.

My personal preference for sealing is a coat of NXT, followed by a coat of pure carnauba. The result your're shooting for is a surface that beads water tightly. That's how you know it's there, doing its job to protect the clearcoat. This combination (so far) has proven to give me the best longevity when compared to everything else I've tried.....and I've tried nearly everything this side of Klasse.

The final step is actually coming full circle with your detailing: What you use to clean your car. Never use bath towels, hand towels, face towels, paper towels, or any kind of terry cloth to wash or dry your car. As soft as you think they are, they put fine scratches into your clearcoat. Use microfiber EVERYTHING. Wash mitt, drying towels, detailing towels, wax applicator pads, wax removal cloths, etc. The clearcoats on late model cars is SO easily scratched because most of the chemicals that paint chemists once used to make it durable have been outlawed by the EPA. Microfiber is your friend. One other thing to stay away from: Dishwashing soap. Use a car wash soap that was specifcally forumlated to wash your car without stripping the wax. "Dawn" will take you right down the clearcoat with repeated use. I highly recommend Meguiars Gold Class.

If you insist on dusting your car off between washes, make sure to use a detailing spray to avoid dragging a dry cloth across the dusty surface of your paint. You can even scratch your clearcoat with a California Duster! Detailing sprays lubricate the gritty substances and help prevent them from leaving scratches. I recently discovered Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer, and it really works well to get rid of dust while protecting from fine scratching.

Good luck keeping your car looking new. There's a lot of stuff in the outside world working against you. :-)

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If you're really interested in keeping a car looking new, invest in a good-quality random-orbital buffer. The Porter-Cable 7424 is an excellent choice. Stay away from those cheapie things on Ebay that look like a big wood sander. IMO, you'll end up doing more marm than good with one of those. Having a good random orbital around will help keep the fine scratches / swirls at bay and truly keep your paint flawless.

That's why I ended up using my own hands. Yes, a good buffer will do the job, but many times you do not control the power.
Many waxes can be applied and polished by hand. It does take energy, but even with use of any best buffer you will have to polish some places by hand, because buffer will not get there.

IMO - such devices are good for completely flat pieces of body, but once you have some shapes, edges... buffer may "scrub" some clear coat of it.


As for dust - well, it is your own opinion, but I do not remove dust. It got there. Period. I will wash it down next time I will give the car wash.

Wax (or anything you apply) was designed to keep your cars paint protected from... water, not dust.

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PLP, I re-read my post and I don't see where I wrote or inferred that wax was intended to protect from dust. I wrote "If you insist on dusting your car off between washes..." because I actually discourage the act, but I find that 99% of the population insist on keeping their cars 100% clean as long as they can after they've spent all day washing and waxing them...so they grab a rag and wipe the dust off. I'm simply saying that those who insist on doing that should seriously consider using something that will act as a buffer between the dust and the clearcoat...i.e., a quick detailer.

I don't dust my car off, but I do occasionally use a quick detailer and a microfiber towel to wipe off the area right behind the wheels if I've driven through someone's sprinker runoff. As for dust, I just let it pile up and when I get sick of looking at it, I wash the car.

As for the times when I wax or polish my car, I indeed do use hand applicators on the areas that can't be reached with the orbital. I've never owned a car that could be done entirely by machine, so I keep a supply of microfiber applicators on hand. As for controlling the speed of my polisher, this has never been an issue for me when using a random orbital. I have seen damage inflicted by overspeeding a rotary buffer, however. That's why I don't use them.

I apologize if you found my post to be misleading in any way.
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Zaino line is tops, but not cheap...........
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