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If we accept the mileage rebate card, do we waive any rights?
OK, I signed up for the U.S. mileage rebate online. Didn't see any fine print about forfeiting ability to participate in class action or private suits.
I went to the dealer for service and also got the odometer verified. Didn't have any fine print there either.
I received the Visa card today with the mileage refund on it. Didn't see any fine print specific to rights or participation. I'm reluctant to use the card.
So - has anyone found anything that resembled a trap if you accept the card or enroll in the program?
The pessimistic side of me says that they can stop the program anytime (after one year, two years, etc.) since they haven't fully defined the limits of the program. If you have already accepted or enrolled we might not learn the limits cause we agreed to things somehow. This is a large corporation of course with accountants and lawyers who will naturally try to reduce the cost of this program in any way possible.
Any thoughts on this topic?
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If you were thinking about a class action suit, you shouldn't have signed up. And what would you really be gaining if you do decide to sue? Was that 1 mpg difference really going to make you sway from some other manufacturer? Does that mpg rating hurt you in some way? No. It not like there was some faulty part on the car that is falling off and hurting people. People are too quick to sue just to make some money.
People are too quick to sue just to make some money.
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2012 Kia Sportage SX FWD, Silver, Leather, UVO, keyless entry.
no sunroof, no nav, no interior led lighting, no heated/cooled seats.
19/25/32 mpg
Well, today I received a letter in the mail from Kia. It was the first piece of official information I have received that put in writing that the program was for the length of time that I own the car. The first letter I received was when the program was first announced and did not have details they were all on the website.
My main concern was that EVERYTHING about the program was on a KIA website. As we know, it only takes a few keystrokes to make things appear and the same to make thing disappear. Like the program rules, duration, etc. Poof, now you see them now you don't.
"But, but....um......it said on the website..." "Where, show me?" "Ah, well it used to say..."
So now I have a letter on company letterhead that spells it out. I'm good with that.
Problem solved.
Now before anyone thinks I'm the suing type or want to double-dip in the victim pool...no that wasn't my purpose for asking the question. I'm just the sort of person who is old enough to remember that business promises should be in writing. A website isn't in writing when the content can change in an instant. You take your chances that something will still be there the next time you need to see it.
OK...now I have a reimbursement credit card to activate. To go buy gas that I didn't think I would need to buy cause my new car was sold to me with a marketing claim of 32 mpg and it will never get that under normal conditions.
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In the garage & driveway:2012 Sportage,2004 Ford Escape,1987 GMC S-15,1957 Chevy 2-door with 327 4-speed, 1951 Ford 3/4 ton with Flathead
Last edited by Pineconekia; 12-06-2012 at 07:05 PM.
I would be happy not to go through all this crap every year and just accept a lump sum payout of $2500.
I agree...a lump sum for inconvenience and confidence loss would be easier. By having to go to the dealer each time for verification of miles...what are the chances of one of us buying another of the same brand? We are getting a reminder each time that they lied on THE key specification of a compact car. A voluntary disbursement to owners as a lump sum would smooth things better than playing a credit card game.
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In the garage & driveway:2012 Sportage,2004 Ford Escape,1987 GMC S-15,1957 Chevy 2-door with 327 4-speed, 1951 Ford 3/4 ton with Flathead
OK...now I have a reimbursement credit card to activate. To go buy gas that I didn't think I would need to buy cause my new car was sold to me with a marketing claim of 32 mpg and it will never get that under normal conditions.
do you get the marketing claim of all the other vehicles sitting in your driveway
you get the marketing claim if you drive the way it was arrived at, they never say you will get that - "your mileage will vary". Your going on about the fine print, so you must have seen that.
So now all of sudden your Sportage gets 2 mpg less on the highway than before they announced it was to be adjusted.
If you were thinking about a class action suit, you shouldn't have signed up. And what would you really be gaining if you do decide to sue? Was that 1 mpg difference really going to make you sway from some other manufacturer? Does that mpg rating hurt you in some way? No. It not like there was some faulty part on the car that is falling off and hurting people. People are too quick to sue just to make some money.
Best post! Especially the last sentence. It makes me wonder, how many businesses would still be around or if the costs of things would be cheaper (since companies wouldn't need to carry absurd amounts of insurance) if everyone wasn't so quick to sue over every little thing, AND if juries would stop giving people overly excessive award amounts.
I wonder how long it will take some bleeding heart out on the west coast to sue for the emotional distress they were caused by the loss of a few MPGs. They are so sensitive out there.
Side note: I do understand the OP wanting something official in writing. Sadly you can't trust people these days. But the excessive crying over a few MPGs is pretty much indicative of today's society. Seriously, I will probably take the money they are forking out too, but it isn't that big of a deal.
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If we accept the mileage rebate card, do we waive any rights?
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