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#1 (permalink) Old 05-07-2011, 04:07 PM
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Questions to throw out there. I've got the Black Cherry color. It's back at the dealer because they applied perma plate paint sealer and scratched up the car even more. I know, some don't believe in the perma plate thing, but I did it. The dealer paint detailer met me at the dealer and said every time you wash a black car you end up with swirls/scratches. Doesn't seem right to me. Wondering what everyone is doing to take care of their Black Cherry Sportages? Any special wax/wash? I knew black paint would be higher maintenance, but did not expect scratches/swirls after 2-3 weeks of ownership. If they get it fixed (may be pursuing lemon law), any tips on care? I have only washed it on my own once.
I saw online the turtle wax black box but the black cherry is not completely black. Thoughts? Opinions? Thanks.
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Every car gets scratched when you wash it. Just shows more on dark colors. Before you wax your car, use a product like Meguiar's Deep Crystal polish before you wax. It will remove the fine swirl marks and make your Sportage look awesome. I've owned numerous dark colored cars in my lifetime and this is just the way they all are. It is not a problem exclusive to Kia. Even custom painted vehicles suffer the same problem.

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I agree.... McGuiar's Deep Crystal is one of the best swirl removers. It works.
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1 don't run it through a car wash.
2 always wet down the car with clear water BEFORE putting a rag/sponge/or any cleaning utensil. (this removes the loose surface grit)
3 Use a known good brand of car was liquid (IE Armor All/ Meguiar's/etc)
4 Work from top down...washing only what areas you can rinse BEFORE the soap drys.
5 Rinse the total car again top down and use a wet clean natural sheep skin chamois to get a spot free car.
6 Then Wax as above working out of direct sunlight, in small areas "wax on- wax off"
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I wanted to chime in here.

The first thing you will want to look into Meeces is whether or not applying a cleaner/polish will void the PermaPlate warranty. On their website they claim that they would want their customers to use their proprietary products. I would contact the dealer, show them the condition of your paint and ask for it to be fixed.

I would imagine that they will not help you saying that you are experiencing what they (the dealer and PermaPlate) refer to as "normal wear and tear". At best they will try to sell you their maintenance kit.

Try that and report back.
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Operator- thanks for the thoughts. I am wondering about voiding the perma plate warranty. It would suck to not be able to remove swirls/scratches with something else. I think I've backed myself into a corner with the use of products. However, the vehicle is now at the dealer because they did such a crappy job applying it the first time that they scratched up the hood and front fenders. I will not run it through a car wash, I didn't much use the auto-car washes in the past anyway. Just be really frustrating to be unable to fix something I specifically had applied to avoid this problem in the first place!
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What are peoples views on touchless car washes? I just picked up a black sportage a few weeks ago too. I'm not expecting a showroom shine from them but it shouldn't cause any swirl marks.
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Touchless car washes are not good for your vehicle, appearance wise, as they use harsh detergents to clean more efficiently. The bigger issue is how most places dry your car. Typically, most places utilize cotton cloths (with an occasional spritz of glass cleaner or something) or some other type of rag. It is during this process that swirls will get instilled into your paint.

If you're not overly concerned about your finish then this is an okay thing. Occasionally, if you're willing, detail your car yourself to bring back that showroom look.
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After having no long-term success with swirl removers, scratch covers, etc, I finally broke down and bought an orbital buffer (Porter Cable 7424) along with some polishing pads (Lake Country) and light swirl remover (Pinnacle) and wax (AutoMagic Carnauba). I had a Black Cherry Mazdaspeed 6 that looked like the previous owner (A Mazda executive) dried the car with sandpaper. The orbital did a bang-up job of returning the clearcoat to new condition.

As far as cleaning, use EVERYTHING microfiber. I found on several previous cars that even the softest terry cloth can scratch, so I only use them for cleaning things other than painted surfaces. Wash mitt, drying towels, detailing towels - ALL microfiber. A good car washing soap is key too. Dishwashing detergents will strip the wax from your clearcoat. I have found Meguiars Gold Class to provide excellent friction reduction during the washing process.

Don't get into the habit of wiping your car down when it gets dusty. You're basically grinding fine abrasives into your paint when you do that. If you can't live with the dust, wash..don't wipe.

Dark cherry colors are gorgeous...but not fun to keep clean and scratch-free. Good luck!

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