Rattle in engine when accelerating

[OzSLS]

Originally Posted by Air Rio

Well I'm having the same issues as well as the swishing noise behind the glove compartment. I added the Chevron cleaner after my first oil change and that doesn't affect anything. I just added premium gas on my last fill up to see if that would help, but don't seem like it is.

Now I've been noticing when I first start the car, the engines starts a little rough and not as smooth when I first purchased it.

I really like my car...but all these noises, etc. don't settle well with me when driving, especially when driving my kids to school every morning. I'm just waiting for my next oil change before taking it to the dealer and bringing all of this up b/c from what I'm hearing from everyone that's already spoken to their dealers...they're just giving the "It's normal" routine.

the 'swishing' noise you describe is probably to do with the aircon, as ours does it on the drivers side which is obviously your glovebox side. It's common and no big deal. As far as the engine starting rough, need more specifics, do you mean it hard-starts? as in shakes the whole car sharply when it starts? or just idles a little rough? It's normal to be a tiny bit rough in the morning, ours does it, all my cars have. But is it hunting, or missing, or? The idle will be up around 1000rpm or more on a cold start, and run rich for a while. The ticking you hear can be the direct-injection pump.

[KCOPE316]

It was suggested by the dealer that I run a higher grade fuel as well.

First the fuel economy "miscalculation" now run high grade fuel.

Cost of ownership for this car is raising by the moment.

[OzSLS]

Originally Posted by KCOPE316

Cost of ownership for this car is raising by the moment.

could be worse, you could have to pay Australian prices for fuel ($1.50 a litre for 95 roughly) - or NZ prices, worse again, or UK prices!

[LA-Foal]

I still run the cheap Costco gas and don't have any rattling... (yet).

[Air Rio]

Originally Posted by OzSLS

the 'swishing' noise you describe is probably to do with the aircon, as ours does it on the drivers side which is obviously your glovebox side. It's common and no big deal. As far as the engine starting rough, need more specifics, do you mean it hard-starts? as in shakes the whole car sharply when it starts? or just idles a little rough? It's normal to be a tiny bit rough in the morning, ours does it, all my cars have. But is it hunting, or missing, or? The idle will be up around 1000rpm or more on a cold start, and run rich for a while. The ticking you hear can be the direct-injection pump.

I'm sorry, but the start up is a little hard to explain. What I mean is that after I start the car, I feel like the engine seems louder than when I first had the car, so I guess it idles rough. It eventually quiets down after driving it, but it's something I'm not use to, espeically since the weather is not even cold.
I figured the swishing is from the a/c, but that's one of many noises I hear from the car. I guess I'm just not use to such a "noisy" car like this. When I press the accelerator, I expect the exhaust and engine to roar...not to hear "ticking" and "swishing" noises... I guess I'm just paranoid of what will happen in the long run with this car b/c I was planning to keep this car for a long time.

[diabloninja]

Anecdotal update: filled up with 93 octane gas, and the tinging/pinging sound when the engine is under load is gone. Guess that means the recommended fuel is wrong?

[skidlid]

I cannot belive anything as poor as 87 octane actually exists. in the UK all we can get is 95 and 98/99. Only rich idiots buy 98, its totally unecessary unless you drive sone expensive exotica since most cars are set up to use 95. Most cars also have knock sensors to prevent detonation should you get a tank of bad fuel.

At over $2 a litre we should get good fuel.

[diabloninja]

Originally Posted by skidlid

I cannot belive anything as poor as 87 octane actually exists. in the UK all we can get is 95 and 98/99. Only rich idiots buy 98, its totally unecessary unless you drive sone expensive exotica since most cars are set up to use 95. Most cars also have knock sensors to prevent detonation should you get a tank of bad fuel.

At over $2 a litre we should get good fuel.

87 octane is fine for some situations. I had a 2000 Elantra that I ran with 87 octane for 176k miles, car was going strong until it was trashed by a tree limb during a storm.

[OzSLS]

i'm not surprised at all that your cars ping on 87 RON. The whole nature of 87 fuel is to explode with less compression, so with the compression ratio of the 1.6, it'll be going off to early which is one of the worst things you can have.

[OzSLS]

Originally Posted by Air Rio

I'm sorry, but the start up is a little hard to explain. What I mean is that after I start the car, I feel like the engine seems louder than when I first had the car, so I guess it idles rough. It eventually quiets down after driving it, but it's something I'm not use to, espeically since the weather is not even cold.
I figured the swishing is from the a/c, but that's one of many noises I hear from the car. I guess I'm just not use to such a "noisy" car like this. When I press the accelerator, I expect the exhaust and engine to roar...not to hear "ticking" and "swishing" noises... I guess I'm just paranoid of what will happen in the long run with this car b/c I was planning to keep this car for a long time.

it's normal for it to be a little noisier when cold

also the direct injected motors tend to be more 'ticky' then multi-point injected cars, it's in the nature of the technology. The pumps are noisier, and the engine can give off a very mild diesel-ish sort of sound at idle and sometimes under load up a hill. My dad has a new Focus which has the direct injected 2.0 and it's got a similar sound quality to it. No big deal. This engine is pretty tough.