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What are you paying for your sportages?

I have gone through the test driving and review threads without finding too many people that have actually bought the cars. What are you guys negotiating your prices down to? Be sure to indicate whether or not your cost was all-inclusive (i.e. out the door, including tax/title/delivery/fees). Essentially, what is your final cost to get the car on the road, excluding any financing charges? Of course, it's important to list your specs/options/location, so that we can have a relative idea of comparison.

I should have the final number on mine here in a couple days and am just wondering what you guys have been getting for certain models.

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I have gone through the test driving and review threads without finding too many people that have actually bought the cars. What are you guys negotiating your prices down to? Be sure to indicate whether or not your cost was all-inclusive (i.e. out the door, including tax/title/delivery/fees). Essentially, what is your final cost to get the car on the road, excluding any financing charges? Of course, it's important to list your specs/options/location, so that we can have a relative idea of comparison.

I should have the final number on mine here in a couple days and am just wondering what you guys have been getting for certain models.
The final number in a few days? You have to be joking.......

It makes no difference option/model wise. A great price is 94% of MRSP (including transport) and acceptable price is 95.5% of MSRP. If you qualify for rebates (military, loyalty, other incentive) then the price would be reduced further.

Any more than that, the dealer loves you.

I would have an out the door price, including tax, license (fax or email) before I ever set foot at the dealer.

Decide what I want (model, colors, options), get the best price, order it, go to the dealer when it comes in, pay and leave the place within 30 minutes.

A lot of people are either impulse buyers or live their life at the dealer trying to decide what they want.

Good Luck.....
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i guess i miss calculated , i got about three % off. equaling $ 716 . at your 4.5% it should have been $1075 . i offered $26000 out the door . thats a base model with a msrp of $23895 + $2781 hst [ 12% sales tax] in canadian funds
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i guess i miss calculated , i got about three % off. equaling $ 716 . at your 4.5% it should have been $1075 . i offered $26000 out the door . thats a base model with a msrp of $23895 + $2781 hst [ 12% sales tax] in canadian funds
12% sales tax... OUCH Here it is 6%

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The final number in a few days? You have to be joking.......

It makes no difference option/model wise. A great price is 94% of MRSP (including transport) and acceptable price is 95.5% of MSRP. If you qualify for rebates (military, loyalty, other incentive) then the price would be reduced further.

Any more than that, the dealer loves you.

I would have an out the door price, including tax, license (fax or email) before I ever set foot at the dealer.

Decide what I want (model, colors, options), get the best price, order it, go to the dealer when it comes in, pay and leave the place within 30 minutes.

A lot of people are either impulse buyers or live their life at the dealer trying to decide what they want.

Good Luck.....
I'm not sure what you think I am joking about. I already have a price of 28,500 OTD, but I am quite sure I have to cover the registration transfer, which is under 100 dollars and is the only variable at this point. That's for a fully loaded EX with AWD (leather, nav.), which includes a trade in, worth 1500. According to those calculations, I am at 7.2% savings...so, not too bad.

I have never gotten as low of a price over the internet as I have while at the dealership. Dealers are always more motivated to sell face-to-face because they have the incentive of getting the money right then, rather than waiting for someone they quoted via e-mail to come to them. I made my deal with one trip to the dealer, secured with a deposit a few days later.

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i guess i miss calculated , i got about three % off. equaling $ 716 . at your 4.5% it should have been $1075 . i offered $26000 out the door . thats a base model with a msrp of $23895 + $2781 hst [ 12% sales tax] in canadian funds
Wow, that tax is crazy...guess I will stop complaining about 7% in my area. Thanks for the response!

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12% sales tax... OUCH Here it is 6%
Agreed, except it is 7% here.
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Wow, that tax is crazy...guess I will stop complaining about 7% in my area. Thanks for the response!

Agreed, except it is 7% here.
Satyr you need to fill in your profile with your location as we are bouncing back and forth between two countries where things are quite different.

Just to let you know here in Ontario the tax is 13% HST which comprises of 5% GST (federal tax) and 8% PST (provincial tax). At the moment, Alberta (I think) is the only one that does not have a provincial tax - but that could change.
So US members count yourselves lucky, but then again we don't have much medical expenses to layout - there's always a trade off
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we are lucky

we are lucky we only pay 12 and 13 . in the province of nova scotia it is 15% .
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Full price!!! But believe it or not, that is a good deal in Alaska. All of the other dealers have $1000-$2000 mark up here for their BS increased cost of doing business in the arctic fees, but Kia doesn't do that. One of the drawbacks of living up here, we have to accept higher prices.

One added bonus in Alaska is no sales tax, so I didn't mind msrp for a vehicle I really like
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Posted the following rant in the US updates thread. Thought it might be relevant here too.

I made my monthly trip into the US today and I thought I'd trek a little further south than usual to see what the closest KIA dealership had on display for the 2011 Sportage. They had about 6 on the lot. I got to see the Sand Track in person for the first time. It's a dark cappuccino/mocha metallic kind of brown. Not my cup of tea (no pun intended ) but it's not an ugly color either.

I was curious to see if they had an EX FWD with the premium package c/w leather seats. Turns out they had one on the lot. It was one of the two Sand Tracks they had. I checked under the cargo floor and there was NO foam storage tray there. Salesman was quick to point out they could get one ordered as an accessory.

Now here is the kicker. The "official" 8.5" x 11" price and spec sheet was on the window. It had the KIA MSRP price for this package correctly listed at $26,990 as per the KIA.com configurator. Then beside that was another half sheet of paper indicating a "manufacturer approved" price adjustment of $2,490 bringing the total asking price to just under $30K. WTF???????

If the Sportage wasn't such a nice looking vehicle I would be long gone from looking at anything from this f*%ked up company. I have NEVER seen pricing done this way before. In my experience "real world" prices are always LESS than MSRP. Who pays MSRP these days? Suckers, that's who. When I mentioned all this to the salesman he said that it's only a starting a point and they are flexible. Great. I'm all for flexibility. But I'm looking for flexibility from $26,990 to $25K. Probably not gonna happen anytime soon I'm sure, but it for sure isn't gonna happen if the dealer moves the playing field up $2,500 on a whim.

I'm fully aware that we live in a free market society dictated by supply and demand. However, if the KIA dealers think they can start playing greedy with this vehicle because it's in short supply at the moment then they can kiss my freckled behind. Just another reason to sit on the sidelines and wait it out. I see PLENTY of Sorento's on dealer lots now. I wonder if they have a $2,500 surcharge on them too? I'm guessing no. The Sportage will be there too soon enough.

I just wanted to throw this out there to see if anyone else had noticed this in their travels. Oh, and it's nice to see that KIA Canada finally have their price configurator up and working for the 2011 Sportage. NOT!!!!
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configurator

when i got my reply e mail after asking about the configurater the answer a flat out lie that it was allready availible at kia.ca
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