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#1 (permalink) Old 08-14-2007, 11:00 AM
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Does it make any sense what so ever to anyone that you can remove the transmission pan, clean it, clean the magnets but cannot replace the filter I don't know why they don't sell one unless its simple to shorten transmission life. By the way on Sorento, Sedona and Amanti you cannot even access the filter, there's no pan you just flush.

I back flushed the filter which is all the dealer said they where going to do for my $200 and 6.4 quarts of fresh SPIII. I also drained and refilled the coolant, replaced the air filter, a week before I seafoamed the car and replaced the oil and filter. I must be at $600 saved already and I still need to replace my cabin filter. For 25k of highway driving I was a bit surprised by the amount of clutch material in the pan. I mailed a sample to AOI yesterday and another sample from the engine oil change for those interested.
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Good info this is from the amsoil site. http://www.amsoil.com/lit/filter_man_council01.pdf

FYI the filter on the rio is felt so it looks like my back flush was a mute point. I really need to find a supplier for new transmission filters, anyone???
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And you can't even buy one from the dealer?
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Nope they don't have it listed so they cannot sell you one. Go ask your parts department and see what they say. I have found the part # ect. ect, but I cannot buy one or should I say I have yet to find a place that I CAN buy one.
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I should have mentioned since I cannot find a filter I am going to use a magnefine, you can find more info on magnefine here: Magnefine--Your Source For Magnefine Inline Filters
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Can you tell me where you got the gasket to replace this and also the amount of fluid you used of the AMSOIL transmission fluid?
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the newer kia transmissions are not serviceable and do not have a filter. all they have for a filter is a screen to filter out anything that may clog the valve body. if you remove the transmission pan you will be voiding your powertrain warranty. you will also void the warranty if you use anything other than kia's SPIII fluid in your transmission.

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the newer kia transmissions are not serviceable and do not have a filter. all they have for a filter is a screen to filter out anything that may clog the valve body. if you remove the transmission pan you will be voiding your powertrain warranty. you will also void the warranty if you use anything other than kia's SPIII fluid in your transmission.
No disrespect intended but this post could not be more wrong. They do have a filter OEM part#46321 22731 look it up if you don't believe me. Also look here: http://www.kia-forums.com/3g-2006-ri...ic-owners.html I anounce this as soon as I found it was available. The filter uses a felt media and not a screen like an old chevy or ford filter uses. I won't get into the approved versus recommended argument since that is where we will end up on fluids, use what YOU are comfortable with and move on. There are several non-approved fluids now that have been working for allot of users not just amsoil.

korbynlehr the pan uses sealant or gasket maker from the factory so the filter comes with no gasket. I always have a bunch of permatex RTV silicones on hand. I clean the mating surfaces and use orange permatex to make my gasket its been working fine for 28k miles now. The transmission holds 6.5 quarts of fluid total if you flush the system. If you drain the pan and the diff (the differential has a drain plug same size as the pan) you get roughly 4 quarts out. The 2 hardest parts of the whole job is 1st getting the pan off with gasket maker and 2nd cleaning the 2 surfaces so you can apply your RTV.

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it's not the fluid that is the issue. i could care less what you use. but when your tranny goes don't expect kia to replace it under warranty. they are gonna ask you for maintenance records as well as proof of what kind of fluid you used in your transmission. if you used anything but SPIII...kiss the powertrain warranty goodbye. also as i said before. that filter is non-serviceable. you open the pan...the warranty goes. i know what i'm talking about. i've seen quite a few warranties get voided by the kia rep in our area because the owner of the vehicle failed to perform routine maintenance kia's way. i'm not going to argue about fluid types either. it's pointless. use what you works for you. i was just stating that i wouldn't do that kind of stuff to a vehicle that is under warranty unless you're prepared to dish out some money when stuff breaks.

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... that filter is non-serviceable. you open the pan...the warranty goes. i know what i'm talking about. i've seen quite a few warranties get voided by the kia rep in our area because the owner of the vehicle failed to perform routine maintenance kia's way.
Exactly WHAT is the Kia approved way to maintain your automatic transmission?
Is it simply to drain the pan and refill? Drop the pan or use the drain plug? Drain the pan AND the diff & refill? Or is it a flush via a removed hose and refill?

I called my local Kia Dealer and asked about a transmission filter and he said it's only a screen or felt and isn't servicable. I gave him OEM part#46321 22731. He said that was a Hyundai number and they stock it. (in stock for Hyundai, but not part of Kia Transmission maintainance???)

I am so confused! What do I do to to service my automatic transmission AND maintain my warranty?
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