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Hello,

I'm about to get to work on changing my transmission fluid but wanted to run through things first here. I've found the procedure on kiatechinfo. I have no fluid changer so I'll just be manually draining and refilling.

I strongly despise my dealer and never want to give them any other business so rather than go there to get the fluid I'm thinking of getting the Mobil multi-transmission. It says it meets or exceeds the SP-III. Mobil Multi-Vehicle ATF

The procedure says I should change a gasket on the drain plug but I'm going to skip this. I have to assume that Mr. Lube wouldn't have done this if I'd succumbed to their wishes.

My only concern is getting air trapped in there but I don't see any reference to this risk in the procedure so is this not really an issue with my vehicle (2005 2.0 Sportage)? Is there anything else I should be wary of?

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Over the years have changed ATF and filters. Never owned a car with a drain plug so I always installed one when I had the pan off. Have never had a problem with getting air trapped. Always double checked to make sure I put in the proper amount of ATF fluid. Have never changed the fluid on my 07 Sportage so I can't offer an opinion on your selection of ATF fluid.
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i'm not much for using "multi-transmission" fluids because they seem like a shortcut to me but if that's what you want to use then that's your choice. as for me, i get my info straight from kia and they say that the only 2 compatible fluids with your transmission are Diamond ATF SP-III or SK ATF SP-III. and whatever you do, don't use anything other than what's specified and this includes using flushing chemicals (yes i read that you're only doing a drain and fill which is good). i've already had 2 transmissions this week come in on a tow truck because some shop used that crap to flush kia transmissions and now they have unhappy customers wondering why their cars don't have 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears.

as for changing the fluid, you're not gonna get air in it. i do drain and fills all day and air won't be a problem. i can't exactly remember what the 2.0 sportage takes but i would put 3 quarts in and start the vehicle and check it and add as needed. when you get the fluid in the "cold" zone on the stick, take it for a 5 minute or so drive and get it warm and check it again (in neutral, don't forget parking brake) and see what the level is and add as needed.

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Thanks for the replies and info.

I don't mean to reopen the whole "which transmission fluid" debate again but I've read such mixed things in my searches on the forums. Some say the recommended fluids you mentioned are old and out of date and that KIA/Hyundai should get with the times. I have no warrenty to void so I figure I'll just go get the highest quality one I can find that meets the ATF-III standard. Lots of people say "you'd better do what the manual says or else" but I'm yet to read someone saying "I put in a different fluid in and the transmission dropped out the bottom of the car".

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Use to drive a mailroute(100 miles-gravel roads-400 stops)and since 1992 drove Dodge Spirits with the 3-speed auto trans. Changed fluid & filter every 15K and was told to use the ATF fluid that it called for on the dipstick. For the Spirits it called for Chrysler 7176 ATF fluid.

In later years Chrysler came out with ATF+4. I followed that advice and I would get 175,000 miles out of the transmission. To tell you the truth when it comes to changing the fluid on the Sportage I don't know what I will use. Just curious but how many years has Kia used SP-III tranny fluid? It seemed like Chrysler was coming out with different ATF every 3-5 years. Hard to keep up with.

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The manual says: DIAMOND ATF SP-III, SK ATF SP-III Quantity : 7.8l (8.2 US qt, 6.9 lmp.qt)

... 7.8l sounds like a lot! Will I really get that much from it?

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Drain/refill is usually 1/2 the capacity. The rest stays in the torque converter, valvebody, ATF cooler loop.......

The gasket(washer) on the drain plug can be reused. Just use a torque wrench on it when you tighten it. You don't want to strip the threads.

There is no way to get air trapped in anywhere. Not sure where that fear came from.

SPIII is a under-performing fluid. Use the ATF+4 or any blend/full synthetic universal or multi-vehicle ATF that mentions the SPIII spec. There is NO short cut with univ-multi fluids since they are blended for the best of multiple spec's and not hindered by one pathetic OE spec, or by cost or supplier limitations.

Hyundai/Kia have stepped up to SP-IV. No mention on whether it is backwards compatible with SPIII. But, its labeled as another 'bogus' lifetime fill.
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I did this a couple weeks ago. I used the multi-purpose fluid and she's been running great since. I never expected to be able to tell the difference with just a fluid change.

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I see there is a lot of knowledge here with the changing of fluid, so here is my question, where is the drain plug, how do I empty, how do I refil, what is best method, I hvae a Kia carensII 2.0 automatic, uk model, I can find no digrams or pictures to aid with any mechanical work that I would like to undertake in the future. any help would be appreciated
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Typically, you drain the ATF by removing the drain plug from the pan.

And, you fill it through the ATF dipstick tube using a funnel.
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