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Sorry to start a new thread regarding this, but i just found out what code is triggering the check engine light: P0016 cam crank correlation. What are the possible causes for this? My timing belt, crank gear, harmonic balancer were just replaced. The check engine light was not on prior to this, which leads me to believe that both sensors are good. My buddy who did the work for me said he checked the timing alignment by rotating a full rotation by hand (twice) and that it looked good. He used the specs from Kiatechinfo. Could the timing have gotten off after starting the engine? The vehicle appears to be running fine, although I did notice that it is shifting between gears when 'coasting'. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!! I really hope that we do not have to remove the crank bolt again (hoping we can access the cam through the top cover).
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1. Were the sensors removed and re-installed, but swapped?
2. Do all timing marks aligned - 4 cams and crank?
3. Check wiring on sensors.
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1. Were the sensors removed and re-installed, but swapped?
2. Do all timing marks aligned - 4 cams and crank?
3. Check wiring on sensors.
NO, the sensors were not removed. The timing marks appeared to be lined up correctly when reinstalled (will double check this today). One thing that crossed my mind...when we removed the crank gear, the sensing plate was completely detached from the gear. After removing this old gear and plate, there was another ring (spacer?) that we may have removed thinking it was part of the gear assembly. Although, I think that the new crank gear may have come with the spacer attached on the back side of the sensing plate..can anyone confirm this?

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at this point I would say that is the area that need second look. It is possible that blade was bent or put back reversed - just trying to give you ideas.
Why the crank gear was removed?
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The sensing blade is part of the crank sprocket. If the blade and sprocket seperated, this could definitely be the cause....
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Dont worry about the crank gear, if it was bent you would hear it hitting the crank sensor as it turns around and around. This is more than likely not the case as if it hit the sensor it would probably break it and throw a crank code. It really sounds like the timing is out. The computer checks cam and crank alignment. If it is out a tooth it may seem to be running ok but is not perfect to the computer. Check timing. Oh, one other thing. The holes in the timing cover where the main engine bracket goes on, behind one of the bolt holes is where the wire runs for the crank sensor, I have seen before where guys dont put the wire in the right spot and it gets pinched between the block and the bracket when you tighten the bolts. Also make sure the cam wires are positioned right inside the holder in the timing cover. Keep me posted.
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The sensing blade is part of the crank sprocket.
Really? So why is it shown as a separate item on the Kiatechinfo diagrams?


Markleyfunk: From what I can see the assembly is
Crank Pulley ---- Sprocket --- Blade ---- Spacer ---- ( Towards Block)

Sensing Blade appears to have a circular ridge which goes towards sprocket and presumably locates it.
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Wheew!! So it turns out that it was that the timing was off by one tooth, hence why it was still running fine. Also, my buddy was able to fix it without removing the crank bolt!!

Also, gee6, the sensing blade is part of the crank gear. I think the diagram is just illustrated like that to show the parts, but when you buy a new one, all of that is 'molded' together.

Thanks for all the advice!
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