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I own a 2003 sorento, I purchased it with 129,000 miles on it. I took it into the dealership a year ago for the crank bolt recall, the dealership told me it had already been replaced and that was all i needed to do. Well last week while the car was in my drive way the bolt failed and broke off. Does anybody know if this will be covered by KIA since they had replaced the old bolt? Seems there should be a class action law suit on KIA. Lets get the ball rolling!
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As far as I have read the car should have had a special sticker placed on it if it has had recall work done.

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X2 on the sticker. Call the Kia customer service line and give them the V.I.N. and they should be able to tell you if it was swapped. Don't tell them your story till after they tell you. It will be a long road uphill before they will repair any damage seeing as it is out of warranty and you are the second owner. Miracles can and do happen though. Good luck on the class action. By the way, you did not mention any damage caused besides the bolt breaking.
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You don't say what the mileage is now. At 129000 miles, the timing belt should have been replaced at least twice - the last time being 9000 miles previous to purchase, give or take. At each replacement of the timing belt, the crank bolt should have been replaced. If servicing wasn't/hasn't been done, that's down to the owner(s). If it was done, you would have to consider how many miles you have put on it, who did the servicing and if it was done properly. Don't see any reason why, given what you have told us so far, that Kia could be expected to cover it. (Not to mention the sad fact that things do break over time.)
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for others reading this apart from the bad design the only way you can try to avoid the bolt breaking is to make sure the belts are at minimum tension to do there job as it is the leverage caused by the belts on the pulley that overloads the bolt ......
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I personally make the TSB many times. becose i am ... a tech from kia. and , sometimes, the crankbolt can broke even if the TSB was done. It appen 2 times at my garage. the best way to know if the TSB was done is the color of the bolt : the original one was metal color without coating and the new one was silver coating and it should not have any lock-tite of any color or any grease on the tread. if you cant have any help from KIA and you have to pay for it . DONT replace the crankshaft in first. try to find a good machinist and he can drill into the crankshaft to put a new bolt . and yes the belt should not be to much tight. a cranck shaft job complete can cost as much 1000$ can and a drill out cost around 350$ can if the radiator and the front was removed .
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mstanf21- You should go to http://www.kiatechinfo.com, create a free login and refer to Pitstop KT2006042501 published 4/25/06 2003~2006 Sorento Crankshaft Bolt (3.5L) Torque Guidelines regarding the reuse of crankshaft bolts and Tech Times Volume 9 Issue 2 Page 7 published 5/18/06 regarding the proper torqueing of said crankshaft bolt. Do you have the original service records? If the timing belt was replaced and the crankshaft bolt reused, its very well conceivable this is the cause of the bolt breaking. I gotta agree with gee6 and nstoolman1 tho. If the TSB was performed, Kia is no longer responsible for it. And the fact your vehicle is out of any factory warranties. If you have extended warranty, maybe they will take care of it. Good luck.

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mstanf21- You should go to http://www.kiatechinfo.com, create a free login and refer to Pitstop KT2006042501 published 4/25/06 2003~2006 Sorento Crankshaft Bolt (3.5L) Torque Guidelines regarding the reuse of crankshaft bolts and Tech Times Volume 9 Issue 2 Page 7 published 5/18/06 regarding the proper torqueing of said crankshaft bolt. Do you have the original service records? If the timing belt was replaced and the crankshaft bolt reused, its very well conceivable this is the cause of the bolt breaking. I gotta agree with gee6 and nstoolman1 tho. If the TSB was performed, Kia is no longer responsible for it. And the fact your vehicle is out of any factory warranties. If you have extended warranty, maybe they will take care of it. Good luck.
I talked to Kia today, they siad I have to take it to a Kia dealership just to have them look at it and declare that the bolt did break and then a Manager can decide if they will give help or not. I decided to pay to have the bolt removed and then I will sell it. The pulley came off in my drive way, nothing else was damaged. My 16 year old daughter drives the car, if it had came off while under a load there could have been an accident and lots of damage to the engine. I know the miles are high, but the bolt that was used to replace the original should not have failed. I think a class action suit should have been done. Seems like there is a lot of people with this problem. By the way, customer service reps at Kia do not want to hear about this Forum!
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Another thing, why should the crank bolt be changed when doing a Timing Belt? That is never done with any other vehicle. Is Kia that much of a piece of junk? I will never buy another Kia or Hyundai, and I am a used car wholsaler!
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I have never had to replace a crankshaft bolt as routine on any other makes that I have fitted timing belts to either.

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