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#1 (permalink) Old 10-11-2007, 05:51 PM
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I was wondering how often you guys change your oil. On my old car I would do it religiously after 3K or 3 months, and I'm coming up on that time.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that Optima's take a certain type of oil or something that most oil change places don't carry so you have to get it from the dealer. I s this right?
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Kia simply specifies a 5W-20 oil for most conditions in the newer optimas. 5W-30 would "per Kia specs" be an acceptable alternative.

Intervals will depend on oil type and driving habits. Consult your manual but remember the manual specs for what is a dino oil spec.

In our 06.5 I4 Optima I used 5W-20 Amsoil XL, which allows extended changes. In our case an oil change would have been twice a year, which in our case would have been about every 4,500 miles.
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Most manufacturers recommend every 7.5k. Think for a moment who tells us to change our oil every 3k miles...the companies that SELL the oil!

Car Talk recommends every 5k miles. I have been doing that for years and have had zero engine related problems in any of my cars. Plus it is easy to remember. On the "odd" 5k I change the oil, and on the "10" I change the oil and rotate the tires.

If you use synthetic or blended oil it changes everything and you should go with the recommendation of the manufacturer.
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When I took delivery I spoke with the svc mgr and he said leave the original oil in 5k mi then do the oil and filter change every 5K mi. I'm a senior citizen and I asked what if we use full synthetic oil. He said 7,500 mi changes no problem. I only put about 8K mi a year on my car so that's only one chage per year so I think I'll go for the synthetic. By the way, how much does KIA charge for oil and filter change anyway? How about change oil & filter and rotate tires?

"Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that Optima's take a certain type of oil or something that most oil change places don't carry so you have to get it from the dealer. Is this right?" Absolutely NOT. I think the service manual says 5W-20 SM rating. Look in your owners manual. Ford synthetic blend is a GOOD oil and relatively cheap at WalMart $2.38 a quart. WalMart Super Tech full synthetic is like $13.50 for five quarts and it's darn good oil. Super Tech filters made by Warren oil Co and not a thing wrong with them either, like two bucks each.

As a matter of interest, I have read debates about using full synthetic in a new engine and some say it's not good for break in oil, so at the 10K oil change I'll go synthetic.

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Well I took it in to the dealer to get it done anyways. They want me to get it done every 3 months/3K miles. I figure I'll just do what they say until the warranty expires, then I'll probably switch over to Amsoil. I've heard a lot of good things about them.
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Unless you operate in exceptionally adverse conditions no way you need to change it every 3K mi and I don't see how a dealer can override the service manual. But, . . it's your car.

While we're on the subject, KIA uses the same tranny fluid as Hyundai so read & heed: "Is ATF+3 OK TO USE IN MY SONATA, because i was told it had to be purchased from dealer only? so can i just use atf+3 from the locale parts shop, and still be ok in warranty?

If you want to buy a new transmission, go right ahead. I have heard that ATF+3 will get you buy if you are just topping off, but not for a drain and fill. (emphasis that "I have heard" but have not seen, so don't mark my words) I have sold several transmissions to shops that put in Dextron 3 or ATF3. Some have not even made it out of the parking lot. If you are that cocerned about price, check for the SPIII fluid at a Kia or Mitsubishi dealership, and check their prices, it is the same fluid for all 3 car lines. One day an aftermarket company might make this fluid, but I doubt it will be anytime soon, since Hyundai has put this fluid in from the beginning. Be forwarned though, if you do put in ATF3, and your car does run for awhile, but your transmission goes out in the future, you will be buying that transmission. When we send the cores back to Hyundai, they do test the fluid that is in it for any contaminents or any foreign fluids or additives and it will come back on you. I have seen it happen. Just spend the extra money and buy the SPIII, might save you a lot in the future."

Also worth of note, the power steering fluid is unique so get it from KIA. Please tell me how much they charged for oil & filter change.

Very good info in this link: Everything you need to know about engine oil

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I get my oil changed every 3,000 miles.... just to be safe. But most (newer) cars can go well over 5,000 miles before needing to get the oil changed. It is risky to go any longer (especially in older American cars), but you can go more than 3,500 miles on a single oil change.

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actually, car manufacturers are also the ones who recommend 3,000 miles between oil changes not just the oil companies. oil breakdown can start as soon as the oil gets up to operating temperature so you could change the oil at 100 miles if you wanted to but that isn't recommended. synthetic oils can go up to 5,000 miles between changes although some oils claim that you can run them longer than that but do so at your own risk.

in my opinion, synthetic oil is the way to go even with the extra price it brings because synthetic oils soak into metal and also it sticks to the engine's parts better than conventional oils and gives your engine better protection at startup. i have ran Mobil 1 full synthetic in my car ever since i got it and my engine still runs strong at 133,000 miles and i plan to get even more out of it.

optimas or any kia for that matter don't use a special oil. just stick with the viscosity that's on the oil cap (i forget if it's 5W-20 or 5W-30 that they use) and stay away from Pennzoil....it's crap.

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^^^ What he said^^^

And yeah, Pennzoil isn't what I would recommend. I use Havoline in my car and, from what I understand, it is what most Kia shops use.

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Please tell me how much they charged for oil & filter change.
The dealer charged me $20. The same price as any other oil change place I've seen.
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