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Old 06-13-2008, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anybody know where I can get replacement pistons for my '04 1.6L? I'm doing a timing belt break rebuild and I DO NOT want to pay what the dealer is asking for a set of pistons. Any help would be very much appreciated. I've looked everywhere. Thanks!

After reading the threads, I have to be the king of the timing belt morons.. I got 124,000 miles before it broke. I've owned 20 vehicles in my lifetime and have never even heard of an interference engine until now.

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Old 06-13-2008, 05:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Place to buy pistons? Try autopartspeople.com. Pistons are $48.28 each, set of rings or all 4 run $90.85. Hope this helps. Regarding the interference engine, many Honda's and the Ford Escort and many more had this type of engine. Not to get on your case but I've never been able to understand why a person buys something that costs as much as a car then never try to find out what kind of maintence it requires. No real excuse today with the internet. Anyway another option would be a salvage yard.
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No, I'm not one of those people complaining about the design... just never encountered one until now. It is my girlfriend's car by the way and we were really enjoying the fuel efficiency of that car. It had about 100,000 miles on it when we met. We've learned a valuable lesson. I'm kinda having fun rebuilding it, but she's not having too much fun forking over a grand for me to do it. I checked that site for pistons, but it turns out it's the same place I ordered them from 3 weeks ago guised as another website (kiaparts.com). It's been three weeks and even though they have hit our credit card, I cannot get any response from them via voicemail or email. It's ok if it just takes that long, but I'd just like to talk to someone about my order status.
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't get your dander up. I have just seen this so often it gets to me after awhile. I wasn't meaning you in particular, just people in general. I have never ordered fromthem it was a suggestion, I had looked allover encluding Rock Auto who usually has everything but to no avail. Good Luck in your endeavor.
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Hey thanks for taking the time to actually look for me. On the same note, does anyone have any input on the level of acceptable piston damage before it shouldn't be reused? One of ours has a hole all the way through it so that's an obvious no, but what about small dents?
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Small dents in the piston tops are going to create hot spots in the combustion chamber, possibly causing even further damage to the pistons.. I would suggest just putting 4 brand new pistons and rings in it.
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i would suggest just going to the junk yard buying a new motor and replacing the timing belt on that one then put it in the car
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Place to buy pistons? Try autopartspeople.com. Pistons are $48.28 each, set of rings or all 4 run $90.85. Hope this helps. Regarding the interference engine, many Honda's and the Ford Escort and many more had this type of engine. Not to get on your case but I've never been able to understand why a person buys something that costs as much as a car then never try to find out what kind of maintence it requires. No real excuse today with the internet. Anyway another option would be a salvage yard.
Ford Escort uses an engine family called the CVH (Compound Valve angle Hemispherical) the engine was redesigned in 1991 used 91-96 as a 1.9 SOHC and again in 1997 using split port induction and this time is a 2.0L these engines are non interference you can break belts all day, no damage, just inconvenience, plus the design of the belt drive and the quality of the OEM ford belt allows the belt to last 150K mi, I've seen 200K on an original 97 belt.

Now the original CVH 81-90 1.6 & 1.9 will sustain damage if timing belt fails. Almost every Honda 4 cylinder will sustain damage if the belt fails. Most toyota's do not sustain damage.
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Didn't realize I had to get so specific on old Escorts but anyway here goes. Only the early 1.6 L Escort, 2.0 L Prob 89/97, 2.0 L 99-on all models, 2.2 L Probe, 3.0 L V6 Mercury Villager 93, 3.0 L Mercury Villager 94/02. These were the Ford models that had interference engines. I was just bring out a point, now with the cost of replacing metal engine parts would it not behove someone to replace timing belts when Mfg recommends? Of course many do not change oil, then wonder why they have a failer.
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To the OP BenKyle, you should change the pistons, hot spots are one reason, the primary reason is that they sustained an impact and they are cast aluminium the chances of a cracked skirt or fractured piston are pretty good, it might not be visibly evident, it is better to be safe than sorry. I have seen many people replace a cylinder head, leave damaged pistons in place and see them throw a rod in 50 miles due to a fractured piston that failed.

Personally before you go in too deep do the math on what it is going to cost you to rebuild, gaskets, hard parts, machine shop fees, valves, pistons, rings and total everything. If you are using high quality parts the price will be in excess of what a warranteed used engine will run, also the used engine will generally have lower mileage, less wear on the water pump, oil pump, injectors, TPS etc
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