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#1 (permalink) Old 09-21-2011, 05:13 AM
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Has anyone been able to successfully resolve the issue with 2006 Kia Rio not starting after filling up the tank with gas? What is the solution?

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I have similar trouble. My Kia Rio 2006 LX won't start easily after I fill the tank.

I have to crank the engine for 5-10 seconds and give it lots of gas before the engine starts. Then I have to maintain lots of revs as the engine won't idle. I then have to drive about 2 miles before the engine is back to normal.

My mechanic suggested that I take the car to Kia and have them apply an ECM update as described in this Service Bulletin:

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Make : KIA Model : RIO Year : 2006
Manufacturer : KIA MOTORS CORPORATION
Service Bulletin Number : TSB-033 Date of Bulletin : APR 01, 2010
NHTSA Item Number : 10032713
Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
Summary :
KIA: ECM UPGRADE-MIL ON WITH DTC P0300, P0128, P0140, P0442 & P0461. VEHICLES MAY EXPERIENCE A ROUGH IDLE DURING INITIAL COLD START UP PERIOD AND/OR ILLUMINATE THE MIL. *PE UPDATED 10/29/10. *PE
I went to my local Kia Dealer and the service center looked at me like I was stupid when I asked for the update. I was also told I was "shit out of luck" because the check engine light wasn't on.

Has anyone had this update preformed? If so how can I get Kia to do it without ripping me off?
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I have been told the problem is with the Vapor Canister Purge Solenoid. Once I have time to find and replace it I will report the results.
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Definitely the Purge valve. Very easy to replace. It mentions on Kiatechinfo that there is a red striped vacuum hose connected to it, so i suggest following vacuum lines from your intake manifold while looking for a red striped vacuum hose. My rio is not available at the moment to look to give you a better description unfortunately. Hope this helps. Thanks.
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Hey rotwyla

Did you get around to replacing this part?

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Well, I changed the part today. It is located under the the rear of the car near the gas tank. Just disconnect the electrical plug, remove part from metal clamp and disconnect the 2 hoses. I filled the car up with gas and I still had to press the gas pedal but I did not have to keep the pedal down to keep it running. Maybe it will start normally on the 2nd fill up.
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I filled up the gas tank a 2nd time and I still had to press the gas pedal all the way down to get it to start. So replacing the vapor canister purge valve does not solve my problem.

Anyone have any ideas?
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I'm thinking you want the valve on the intake manifold that controls the vacuum back to that valve you replaced. Calling things one name or another can get you in REAL trouble as each manufacturer will call them what they want...and may be the same or different than an other. I would call it the Purge Valve, but that may NOT be what KIA calls it.

When the car is purging the tank, this valve will click repeatedly. I found this out when I put a vacuum gauge on the engine and tied into this valves' supply hose. It clicks like crazy out on the road and made the gauge click too. Ended up T-ing into the PCV valve hose and all is well.

On the back of the manifold, find the valve with direct supply from the manifold that goes back to the tank. That is the one that I'm thinking is sticking open and causing your flooding during re-fueling. There have been several folks with this same problem and I think this will do the trick. Good luck!
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I purchased the Purge Control Solenoid Valve (PCSV) from the Kia Dealer. Part # 2891026900. I filled the car with gas and it started normally. The problem has been solved.
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I have a 2006 Kia Rio LX manual transmission and have been dealing with the same problem my car is stalling when I fill up with gas. I took it to the Kia dealer they replaced, my fuel tank, charcoal canister and purge valve, and I filled the car up with gas last night and it stalled AGAIN!! I called the Kia service department today to report my issue and I was told to wait and fill up one more time and not to top off my gas tank and then it shouldn't stall. I am so frustrated at this point does anyone have any ideas what it could be???
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