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I'm installing a Rostra CC in a 4x4 2001 Sportage with 5-speed manual. Everything's hooked up except the gray VSS wire which should be attached to a Blue/Black wire from the VSS connector on the transmission. Elsewhere in this forum someone said it's located at the end of the gearbox (I presume they meant transfer case) on a 1998 model.

I can only find two connectors on my transmission proper. One has two green wires and the other one is located about a foot behind that one and is so tightly taped into the wiring harness that I can't tell the color of the wires.

Can someone direct me to a picture of the VSS in a 2001 Sportage with four-wheel drive and a 5-speed transmission? Or perhaps give me a detailed mental picture of where I should look for this Blue/Black VSS wire?

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My personal thanks to those of you who took the time to read about my CC question. By further reading elsewhere in this forum I found out the VSS on this particular model is gear driven. Another trip underneath led me to the very last connector just in front of the rear driveshaft. Sure enough, the Blue/Black wire was there and I made my connection.

No doubt I'll be utilizing this forum a great deal now than I've become the owner of a slightly experienced Kia. Thanks again to those who looked.
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how does a CC work with a Manual Trans ? as all CC I have known are on Auto's because they disengage when the brake is applied and resume when the gas is applied. or a switch, does it only work at cruise speed ?
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The Rostra kit came with a clutch switch which disingages the CC when you depress the clutch pedal. Of course I use the CC only in fifth gear at highway speeds. I also installed a CC in a VW Rabbit diesel with 5-speed manual. Same deal and it was working when I traded it in.
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The Rostra kit came with a clutch switch which disingages the CC when you depress the clutch pedal. Of course I use the CC only in fifth gear at highway speeds. I also installed a CC in a VW Rabbit diesel with 5-speed manual. Same deal and it was working when I traded it in.
I have the Rostra CC with steering wheel mount RF switch on my manual, but didn't bother with the clutch switch. There's no way I'll be pushing in the clutch with the CC engaged.

Just like I do when driving an auto, I just tap the brake to disengage.

The Rostra kit is good.

Best prices I've found are from Brandon Distributing, Inc. - Automobile Accessories - Cruise Control

For service info register (free) with KiaTechInfo and click on 'Shop' on the left, and for elect schematics click on 'ETM'.

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I checked the site, I did not see anything for a 2001 Sportage, I have a 5sp mt. what would I need to install a CC on it, would be nice when I go see family 150 miles away on the freeway, thanks
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I checked the site, I did not see anything for a 2001 Sportage, I have a 5sp mt. what would I need to install a CC on it, would be nice when I go see family 150 miles away on the freeway, thanks

You will need:

Universal Electric Cruise Contol Kit Part #250-1223
Brandon Distributing, Inc. - Accessories for your Car, Truck, SUV & RV

And then in addition to that control unit you will need a control switch, either the RF steering wheel, or stalk.
That is all that's needed.

Look at the Rostra site for a good selection of switches - they don't sell direct to the public.
Rostra Precision Controls | Custom and Universal Aftermarket Automotive Cruise Control by Rostra (250-1223)


Use the search function on Rostra's site:
http://www.rostra.com/main/search.php
2001 Kia Sportage
Cruise Control :
250-1223


Cruise Control Switch :
250-3421 or 250-3742

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cruise control has been around for years on manual transmissions....i had a 1984 mazda 626 m/t with factory cruise and also a 97 neon m/t that i know was factory since i bought the car brand new

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I just got an actuator (ROSTRA e11 020006) out of the junk yard from a 2000 Kia Sephia to put in my manual 2000 Kia Sephia, and there are (10) wires color coded:

Orange
Light Green
Blue
Dark Green
Grey
Brown
Yellow
Black = Ground
Violet
Red/ Brown Stripe

Nothing in the Kia Manual of these colors matches up to these colors on the actuator. PAGE 12-40 and 12-41.

All the wires start with Brn/ xxx ? WTF? (In the manual for a 2000 Kia Sephia)

AFTER SOME RESEARCH I FOUND THE COLORS...ON THE ROSTRA SITE. YEA!
ROSTRA e11 020006

http://www.rostra.com/manuals/250-1223Form4565G.pdf

http://www.rostra.com/universal-afte...-by-rostra.php

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ROSTRA MODEL # e11 020006
WHERE:

Brown = IGNITION POWER -10 AMPS

Black = Ground

Violet = Negative Brake Switch (COLD)

Red/ Brown Stripe = Positive brake, and RESUME/ ACCEL ON -CONTROL (4 AMPS)

Yellow = 'RESUME'/ ACCEL (CONTROL) (switch) SET COAST

Dark Green = Set/ Coast (switch)


* Orange = Enable Output (ENO) Wire - The ENO Wire will drive low when the system is engaged and to a high impedance state otherwise. This wire terminates in the harness.

Light Green = Neutral Safety (NSS) - If a vehicle with an automatic transmission is accidentally “knocked” into neutral
while the vehicle is in motion and the GlobalCruise is active, the NSS wire, when connected, will disengage the G Global Cruise before engine over-rev. Connect this wire to a ground active wire when neutral safety switch is engaged. If the NSS wire is not “hooked-up”, the cruise control will function; however the engine over-rev protection will be inactive; this is dangerous and not recommended. This wire terminates in the harness. (or External LED)

Dark Blue = Tach

Grey = Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) - The Gray Vehicle Speed Signal (VSS) wire is how the GlobalCruise “knows” how fast the vehicle is moving. The Pulses Per Mile/Kilometer (PPM/PPK) are a characteristic of the vehicle and must be set Accordingly (See Page 7). If VSS cannot be located on the vehicle then an auxiliary road speed sensor must be used
[Signal Generator or Magnet & Coil Pick-Up Kit (Kit# 250-4165)]. If you use an auxiliary speed sensor, plug it into auxiliary speed sensor connector (J in Figure 34) and trim the Gray VSS wire as not to pick-up any stray signals. In order to locate the VSS and TACH signals, consult a Vehicle Shop Manual, our Vehicle Technical Guide (Rostra Form# 4429 or 4428), or call our Technical Service Department at (800) 732-4744, Fax us at (910) 276-3759 (USA) or visit us on the web at http://www.rostra.com.


I so want to install this....

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