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Hi all,
This has been a very informative forum and I've enjoyed reading most every thread these last couple of days. I have a 2002 kia that has never given any problems. Well that's not true there was an incident a couple of years ago where the fan blade broke and in the process destroyed the steering fluid container and damaged the radiator. Other than that though its been great until a couple of days ago when the timing belt broke. In retrospect its something that I should have changed long ago (currently at 109,000 miles), but whats done is done.
I'm very much a novice when it comes to cars, but to broke to take it to a mechanic. So I have to fix this car myself (I do have most if not all the tools to do it, including a torque wrench).
So, as of this writing, this is where I stand: Following the instructions on kiatechinfo.com I've managed to take off all the items that are in the way of the plate covering the timing belt. The only thing that seems in the way is the crank shaft pulley, but kiatechinfo doesn't say wether to take it off or not. It seems rather obvious that I need to take it out, but maybe there is something I'm missing. Also the crank shaft pulley, is the Bolt holding the pulley the type that to losen it you have to go the other direction?
The other thing. I'll be replacing the other belts since I had to take them out. Is there anything else that you guys may recomend that I do since I've already taken a good bit of stuff out of the engine compartment.
Never mind. As soon as I finished typing this I noticed the five little bolts that connect the crank shaft pulley. I managed to get everything off and put the belt. Runs very rough though so now I have to adjust the timing, which probably means that I have to take everthing off again. Oh well, live and learn.
Never mind. As soon as I finished typing this I noticed the five little bolts that connect the crank shaft pulley. I managed to get everything off and put the belt. Runs very rough though so now I have to adjust the timing, which probably means that I have to take everthing off again. Oh well, live and learn.
Good going.
Do you suspect that you have the timing belt off by one or two teeth?
Best to turn the engine over by hand a few times and make sure the timing marks line up again before boxing everything up.
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Yeah, that's what I should have done. The one thing that I noticed when I put the timing belt on is that the E and I never matched exactly with the notch on the motor. The I was a couple of teeth off to the left and the E was a couple of teeth off to the right. Is there any way to align them?
Yeah, that's what I should have done. The one thing that I noticed when I put the timing belt on is that the E and I never matched exactly with the notch on the motor. The I was a couple of teeth off to the left and the E was a couple of teeth off to the right. Is there any way to align them?
Yes you can and sure need to get all three (crank + I + E) lined up 100%
It best done with an extra pair of hands, or a camshaft holding tool.
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Yes you can and sure need to get all three (crank + I + E) lined up 100%
It best done with an extra pair of hands, or a camshaft holding tool.
Just finished taking it all apart again. I'm amazed at how fast I did it. First time around took me around 5 hours, this time maybe a little over an hour. Pretty cool I think.
Anyways, How do you go about doing it? I tried looking it up on kiatechinfo, but they don't have any more information. Also thanks for letting me know about the crank, didn't even think about that one.
Mike. I went ahead and ordered a Water pump. Thanks for the suggestion. As a matter of fact once it cools down a bit (its hotter than hades out there in my driveway!) I'm going to change all the hoses, coils pretty much everything surrounding the engine. I might seriously even do the electric A/C fan that I saw in this forum. While we will probably buy a bigger car (three kids in the back seat is doable, but they are like sardines in there) in the near future, I would love to keep the Kia for our business.
Anyways, How do you go about doing it? I tried looking it up on kiatechinfo, but they don't have any more information. Also thanks for letting me know about the crank, didn't even think about that one.
There are other DIY posts on this subject, but the forum search function doesn't work too well.
I normally get the timing belt kit which includes the tensioner and idler rollers, and only do the water pump on the second belt change (120000miles) unless it feels rough on the first belt change.
Best to use the standard NGK plugs gapped to 0.030"
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Last night I printed the instructions that Ron1004 so graciously pointed me to, and they made all the diference in the world.
A friend of mine came over this morning to help out with the car and with his help I was able to adjust the cams so that all three (Crank shaft + E + I) were lined up at the 12 O'clock position. This was a much bigger pain in the rear end than I thought as we had to slip the belt on and off about half a dozen times before we finally got it right. Everything would work fine until we adjusted the tensioner and the camshaft would move just a hair. Then we came up with the bright idea that we should leave the camshaft just a little off so when we would adjust the tensioner the woodruff key would fall into place. Except it was as if the woodruff key could read our minds and just to piss us off and would stay in place even after we applied tension. Regardless we finally got it, and cranked up the car.
The car sounds good with no rough idling of any kind, also no check engine light. The only problem so far is that I think I broke off the heat sensor from the water pump since the needle that tells me how hot the car is running shows dead cold even after driving it a little while. I think I know what I did wrong and as I'm writing this I'm just waiting on the car to cool down before I put my hands close to the engine.
Anyways, I really want to thank you guys. I can truthfully say that I wouldn't have been able to do this without the people in this forum.
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Help in installing the timing belt
I managed to get everything off and put the belt. Runs very rough though so now I have to adjust the timing, which probably means that I have to take everthing off again. Oh well, live and learn.
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